So, like having more structure?
Right, yeah, I guess more structure. Which is not always a bad thing, I’m a free person but I think structure, depending on what it is, it’s good sometimes and within a song, it’s beautiful. So yeah, there's a lot of guitar, there's a lot of that classic songwriting structure and I think with my vocals I tend to have the same approach for vocals with that kind of soft textured and whispery voice and that falsetto, I love harmonies and I love rhythmic melodies no matter what the genre is.
The lyricism of your music conjures up feelings of pure ecstasy. Could you walk me through the writing process of your new album?
So I’ll hear a melodic thing that I like and I’ll write a melody to it and whatever words stick out, I like to do a couple of different takes. I’ll do a take of just melodies, I’ll do a freestyle and just see what words come up and then I think after that I’ll start to nail down a specific structure and finalize things. But yeah I usually start melodically or with a certain concept or a word that describes the concept. Time machine, I think I freestyled that but I remember just being so high and I was so emotional, I just felt so heavy, I felt a lot of pressure. It was just what I was feeling at that moment and I just wanted to run and hide. But I love when it’s realistic and I love when it comes from a real place and all of my music comes from a real place.
Earlier you mentioned that you wanted to take up space in the alt genre of music and this album can be labelled as a crossover between blissful and experimental sounds. What makes this such an irresistible combination for you?
I don’t know, I can’t choose and I don’t wanna choose, but I really love the spaces that ‘candy grapes’ ended up in and I wanna do a lot more music like that. For ‘my slime’ I think it was really cool, like the balance of feeling more like a folk song and then the words feeling like a trap song. Like, you don't hear folk singers singing ‘my slime’ and I love that unexpected conversation of things. Even when I eat I like sweet and salty so like the same thing with music it’s a certain balance and I wanna start doing that a lot more. ‘Candy grapes’ was so fun it took me back to performing in New York and just being around musicians and we had so much fun. I was in the studio with Steve Lacy the other day and he was working on one of his projects and just his approach to music was really special to me. I just wanna feel like a rock star.
Speaking of that, what kind of feeling dominates when you listen to your music and what do you want your listeners to feel when they listen to this new album?
I think I just wanna move people, a lot of music sounds the same now so I want people to hear it and be like ‘what is this? This is not supposed to be like this’ or ‘this is a combo I haven’t heard.’ Like, it was funny seeing people's reactions to ‘my slime’ and people really liked the song but it was like moms or whatever who were like ‘this song sounds so pretty but the lyrics were a little disturbing’ and I love that, I love catching people off guard. I want people to stop and listen and feel something and I want them to be able to relate to it and I want them to feel like rockstars too and I just want them to feel overall, just feel something.
You’re part of a generation that exists in the age of social media, like TikTok, Instagram, and all of these other outlets. Would you prefer to have lived in a different era or are you happy with existing in this generation?
I wish that I could just live in the future if anything or just live forever. Other than that, whatever era Jimi Hendrix was in but that wasn't necessarily an easy time to be alive in but I’m happy with being in this generation, I would just wanna live a little bit later. Hopefully, I can come back.
What are the next steps for you for the rest of the year? And can you tell us more about the central themes of your upcoming project(s)?
I do have a video coming up and I’m not done with this project. I have more coming up with this project and I have a lot of features that I’m working on now that I’m really excited about. I think visually I’m just gonna try to push myself as much as possible to try and make the best visuals I can and make it a full experience. Just getting really creative and putting out music and finding new ways to connect with the people who listen to it.