DD—When did you realize you had this kind of influence? At what point did you say, ‘I feel like I’ve made it?’
TR—One thing: I’ve always had the attitude that I made it already. But I also sat back and kept quiet and paid homage to a lot of other artists. I sat back and watched the process of other artists. But I realized that I made it when people started tapping into the producers I was working with, and just trying to create the same sounds. So, when I went and created “Love Scars”—when that blew up, I was like, ‘Oh yeah, I got it.’
DD—There’s definitely a lot of your influence in new music. What new artists are you impressed with right now?
TR—I’ve been listening to a lot of Soundcloud. I like Sofaygo—he’s pretty hard. There’s also this kid named ericdoa, his shit’s pretty tough. I’m also rockin’ with Poundside Pop. I love his music—and he’s from Philly.
DD—How do you think the music industry is changing with the internet? Do you think the Grammys are more relevant than what people are engaging with online?
TR—It should be about what people are engaging with themselves rather than what some people are trying to present to you. Secondly, I have no objections to the Grammys. I don’t feel they do anything wrong besides sometimes being unfair to artists that deserve certain things. Like, for example, someone had a song that was hot for two years and all over the charts for 50 weeks, then someone else released a song just two months ago, and the Grammy goes to that person. It doesn’t make sense to me. It doesn’t resonate.
DD—When I found out I was interviewing you, I asked some friends to tell me what songs they wanted to know the backstory for. A lot of people said “Topanga,” so I’d love to know what was going through your head when you made it.
TR—So, A Love Letter to You 3—the beat on that whole project was like, on some futuristic next level. Every beat just sounded big. But on “Topanga,” it was especially big. And the process? Well, I was smoking, you feel me? I was pretty hyper. I was turned up. This is back when I had sharp grills and stuff. So, I was just in a turned-up space. We’d have parties every day at the studio. No COVID so it was different. I did that song in like literally 20 minutes. I just went in there and freestyled and that’s what came out. We had a big sample at the beginning but they didn’t want me to use it because it was like, hella gospel—they said I can’t do that.
DD—Everyone also wanted to know about “Tell Me U Luv Me.”
TR—Me and Juice had been kicking it every day. I ended up pulling up to his house—we were trying to do a project together, and we cut up a couple records that day. But his girl Allie [Lotti] really loved this one. We were supposed to shoot a video together for it, but I ended up having to shoot it by myself. Two friends smoking, vibing, talking, laughing. The best of times.
DD—How would you say Juice changed you as an artist? As a person?
TR—Working with Juice was just like looking in the mirror, in my opinion. We were both on the go. We both did the same shit in the studio. He was just like my brother. I learned a lot from him, just him as a person and also things that he said. And he would always come to me for advice too. He taught me a lot about friendship and being together and creating this big legacy in this world that we could ultimately be at the top of. We definitely had me at high hopes.
DD—That’s the main goal, right? A legacy.
TR—Of course.
DD—How do you define success?
TR—I feel like I’m successful because I do my art. I finish it how I want to. I release it the way I want to. So, that’s why I feel like I’m successful. Money and materialistic things—it doesn’t really matter. It’s the fact that I can just do what I love and live my life. It’s amazing. And do what I want with my time. It’s a blessing.