Tell me a little bit about the conception of this music video. How did you come up with it?
Well, it's really the brilliance of this friend Jonathan Sims. He directed it, it's kind of his brain child. When I saw that he does these immersive 3D constructions, I thought it was so cool, it's so cool. I’ve wanted to do a virtual reality meet and greet for a while, so it was always this thing on the back burner. I was like okay, we need to just do something and for some reason it just felt right to do it for the meditation track. You know, it's like dropping into its space, the imagery is really gory but I think it’s the perfect immersive experience to go deeper in 3D.
Have you ever used 3D before? Like, with the oculus?
I have, I’ve done virtual reality where you walk on the plank and you’re on top of a building and then you fall. It was kind of unpleasant.
Yes! It’s totally unpleasant! I remember the first time I put on the headset and I almost started crying. It’s like, so intense, it was so funny.
I mean, have you seen those videos of grandmas doing VR and, like, crashing into the wall and screaming?
I’m that grandma!
I feel like you’re known for your pearly whites. Do people compliment your teeth a lot?
Yeah, they do! It’s funny, I’m actually overdue to go to the dentist and you know, it’s just such a strange profession. Like, the weird mythology around it, and it’s like really difficult to become a dentist and it’s just such a strange job. Like, who would wanna be a dentist?
That’s true…
But you know, my orthodontist did a great job. I had braces, so I’m really grateful to him… Dr. Bennet!
My association with dental work is that it's so tedious. I had braces for two years and I had those gross rubber bands that move your teeth forward. Some people are blessed with perfect teeth and never have to do anything like that… whereas other people are just doomed.
Yeah, and I think that in this country, especially in Los Angeles, people are obsessed with teeth. Like, Americans are obsessed with teeth. I was watching a French movie the other day and holy shit, these people's grills are jacked! The guys would have brown teeth and you would never see that here, not anymore at least. I think it’s equally weird, like this obsession with these giant ceramic tiles in the mouth.
And why aren't teeth included in our health insurance? Like, we have to get a separate dental insurance.
I... don’t… fucking… know! With teeth especially there are a lot of social signifiers around that. Like, there’s a lot of shame and poverty, you know, the shame of not being able to afford to fix your teeth. I know plenty of people who couldn’t replace a molar because it was $2000. So I don't know why, it’s just crazy.
My mom always tells me to take care of my teeth especially, because I guess she sees from her mom how tedious it is, especially when you’re older, like, dentures. It’s kind of dark actually.
It’s super dark. You watch the whole organism deteriorate. It’s like the control center in a lot of ways, the mouth. It’s the really important, unavoidable part of your body and you can’t really hide from it. Tooth pain is the worst, like, I have friends who have such bad teeth and are always in some kind of pain, it’s horrible.