How’s converting people going so far?
I've saved so many kids, at least 20 by now. They were depressed, fucked up. We have fucked up fans, but I love all of them. And now they text me Bible verses.
What was your relationship with religion like as a kid?
I was raised Christian, so I've always had God in my life, but I never really studied Christianity. I know that’s true for a lot of people. You just do whatever your parents tell you to do, then when you get to a certain age, and you’re not forced into it any more, you just kind of rush off. But once I realized what being spiritual is, what believing God and Jesus is, it just made my head clear up. I had to go through that little fucking dark place to get me to find God.
What have your friends said about your rebirth?
The other day I was trying to minister to my friend and he said he’ll get into God when he’s older and closer to death. And I'm like motherfucker you don't know when you're gon’ fucking die! None of us know! But most of my friends have been receiving it. I haven't been shoving it down everybody's mouth, but I've definitely been very vocal about my paradigm shift. They're open to it, too.
There ain't nothing bad about God. Look at Ned Flanders, he's the happiest motherfucker ever. His wife dies and he still finds a way to be happy. And we relate more to Homer Simpson and all them, but why wouldn’t we want to be Ned? I've been from the lowlife perspective, the gangster, drug-dealer perspective, and it’s a lot of misery. We try to be hard through the hard times, we just kind of thug it out, but with God, he'd take a bad situation and turn into a lesson.
Are your parents hyped on your newfound spirituality?
Hell yeah. They were like, “[We]’ve been praying for this for hella long,” Because I've been a heathen most of my life, even from Raider Klan. That’s why I liked them, it was dark. I've always liked the darkness. But you don't realize that you lose your moral code. Like when I first found out who God was, I was scared. I was like damn, I'm a bad motherfucker, I done did some bad shit. But then I realized what God's grace is. He gon' judge you, but he loves you.
In your opinion, what role does religion play in modern underground rap?
There’s so much satanic shit. But if you believe in Satan, you have to believe in God, because even Satan believes in God! The SoundCloud wave is just all about depression. That’s when I started realizing I've been on the wrong wave this whole time.
Will you be dropping Christian music from now on?
I've tried to do a Christian song, and I don't like it per se, because it's not as catchy as my regular music, but it's got the message. I've been praying about that too. Like whatever God wants me to do, I feel he'll put in me. It might not always come out in a Christian song, like I could give reverence on a trap song, you know? Some people will like it, some people will hate it, but I know what I'm living for now.
When Mase found God, Cam'ron said it was a front. When Kanye found God, his fans called bullshit. It seems like every time a rapper is reborn, people suspect ulterior motives. What do you make of that phenomenon?
It makes no sense! I'm just trying to save some souls! And I'm not saying I'm not into a lot of bad shit. I'm still on Instagram, I see the bad bitches on there. You commit adultery every time you look at a woman with lust, but I look at Instagram every day. It's a struggle, but a necessary struggle.
In your new Blunt Talk podcast with Chilly Sosa, you dropped a Christian-rap gem. You say, "you can't sip lean without drinking water." What did you mean by that?
Everything must have balance. If you do too much bad, bad shit's going to happen. Everything in life is like that. You need balance or you're going to die.