How do you describe your sound?
I’d call it tomboyish fantasy, really. It’s a feeling for me. Most of my music’s got a very chaotic energy.
Tell me how you got into making music.
I think I was 5. I remember I was watching a video of Jimi Hendrix and he was slaying the guitar, and I knew I was so interested in it from that moment. I picked up guitar because my dad was playing it and started writing songs from then onwards. I was also in loads of choirs as a kid and I’m not religious, but probably the closest I’ve ever felt to a religious experience has been with a really good group of singers in a church.
So music came early for you, but when did you figure out you wanted to perform?
I was a bad kid in school, but when I would sing or do something, the adults and teachers would chill out on me a little bit. It was kind of my saving grace in a weird way, having a level of what I say in [the 2017 single] “Taken Care Of,” a place where I feel invincible, I feel that’s definitely something I found in school. All these things that you used to think of me, you can’t now, because this is me and I’m laying my heart out. I don’t mind or care. I’m happy with it.
So you still have the same relationship to performing?
I feel like mine’s quite healthy compared to a lot of people’s. I have friends who want the whole world to love them, and that’s not really what I’m there for. For me it’s more about connecting with people and being able to give them the experience I feel when I’m in a crowd looking up at someone.
I feel like wanting the world to love you is the antithesis of your goal.
Yeah exactly. You get me. I want everyone to see me for something real, I guess. As opposed to idolizing me. Which can be tough when people are asking for your signature, because I’m there like, ‘That’s conceited, I don’t want to do that.’ But then I’m like, ‘I can’t be a dick, I better sign it.’
How’s that been, getting used to that sort of treatment?
It’s difficult, because it’s not in my nature to behave that way. I don’t expect people to get down on one knee for me. I think I’m a little bit too modest for my own good sometimes when it comes to stuff like that. So I’m starting to adjust with this American tour. If someone’s driven six hours to see you, you better sign their shit because it’s almost more conceited to be like, ‘That’s not my character.’ You know what I mean?
What’s the EP's single “Grim Reaper” about?
“Grim Reaper” was one of the most lyrically intense ones on the EP. I’m diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, and what that’s well known to mean is that you have this feeling of death following you around. It doesn’t really go away. But for me that translated into this huge personality shift into being someone who goes skinnydipping in Lake Michigan on a night out without even thinking about it, from someone who couldn’t take the bus or get on a bike.
For me, trying to deal with that personality shift, I felt like I was watching this brave young version of me running around. That became conflated with my feeling of death following me around as well. I felt like there was this little version of me being like, 'Look what you can’t do anymore.' And that sort of manifested as the disorder.