So you’re still in the beginning of your come up.
It depends on who you ask, you know? I’ve had fans that have been rocking with me for a while now. My first headline was a little over two years ago, so that kind of was a marker I guess.
Would this be a new direction for you? This kind of shift towards social issues?
Nah. I mean, anybody that knows me and has been following me knows I’ve always, both in my art and just how I use my platform, I’ve always been passionate about speaking on issues I care about. I think part of the ‘Do the Work’ thing is I’ve had to look inward and say, ‘Alright, well, you do a lot of talking about these issues, and you make art about these issues, and sometimes speaking can be an action in a certain way - but what have you really done?' Like what have I done? I think we tell ourselves things, especially as artists, we’re like, ‘Well, when I’m famous and rich I’ll be able to do all this community engagement and give back because then I’ll have money, and then I’ll have all this clout,’ and I just looked inward and I was like, I think it’s important to try and start doing whatever it is that I can on whatever small scale with the things that I’m passionate about. So it's new in the sense of the WORKWEEK and taking this really to the ground, but it's consistent with the messaging that I’ve had over the past few years.
Right, so essentially it’s like a critique of the complacency that happens on social media. These ‘facebook rants’ or just even the idea of activism these days is so annoying. Because it’s like ‘oh activism/advocacy.’ Like what do you mean ‘advocacy’? What does that even mean?
And this idea of like, what does it look like to use your voice in an age where everybody has a voice because of social media? And you can say anything at any time, it really cheapens what that means. And you can make a status or you can say a thing and you can feel like you’re a part of the cause, but I think it’s really about understanding and discovering that using your voice in 2019 has to look like some form of action. Whether it’s literally as simple as reading more about these things to become more informed, or giving certain things up in your life, or whether it's reaching out to a non-profit and engaging. Whatever your platform is, whatever you have time to do, but we do make decisions every day, whether we think we are or not. It's like clothing, almost like you can't opt out. Even if you walked around naked, you’d be making a statement. So it's the things that you purchase every day, or the conversations you engage with, these all contribute to the progression and the direction of the world.
It’s interesting that you had this moment where you had to say it was ‘I’. I think that's where the power of the video comes from. Do you ever feel that way? The way that's expressed in the song?
Totally! First of all, I mean there's a lot of me in it. A lot of the things that I list as things that I could do but I’m not doing, a lot of them do apply to me. But then, second of all, yeah, I think there is the honesty of that feeling. I’ve seen the responses where a lot of people relate to that, like ‘I just really don’t want to this, this feels so overwhelming,’ and everyone's got their own problems and their own issues. So I think that's why the song resonates with people, in the sense of that it meets them first from a place of empathy. It’s empathy through critique.