And you're in a prime location for people-watching. I agree with everything you said. There's constant inspiration here. Even just seeing certain things styled in ways that you would not think of.
Living in New York, you give up a lot of intangible things. But the reason why it's so expensive here is the opportunity cost. This is the best place to start a business. This is the best place to start your creative projects and the best place to find inspiration. So when I have to pay my expensive ass rent, I think, "Well this is the cost that I'm paying for the opportunity to be around all these things," you know?
I think that connects back to community. The community fostered in New York, especially within fashion, is incredible. There are a lot of people who flock to the things that you do, not just for the clothing and the pieces, but because they trust you and your vision. How does that feel to know that you have this community around you as well?
I mean, it feels kind of crazy. Obviously, at Round Two we had a community around us. But this time around, I had the blueprint for how to build a community through social media, but I needed to do it my own way. To answer your question, it's been very vindicating and it feels really nice that people are flocking to us, especially with the social media stuff we're doing, because I'm able to be honest and speak in a way that a lot of people aren't. Since I don't work directly with any of these companies, I'm not beholden to anyone and I can speak my mind on stuff whether or not people agree with it. I've been told that honesty is refreshing to people. I don't know how to shut the fuck up regardless of if I'm in front of a camera or just with my friends, for better or for worse. So it's nice that I'm able to espouse my views and people are rocking with it. I had an idea that I wanted to do this and build this community in a certain type of way, but thinking about it and actually executing it are two different things. It's been really nice to be able to say, 'Oh, I actually executed and did it.' It's been very fulfilling.
I feel like New York is the place to be for Luke's because of how open people are to expressing themselves in different ways here. I wanted to ask you about one of the first pieces, whether it was footwear or a garment that you remember curating, and what that meant to you.
We were one of the first resale stores back in the day to really be pushing 85 Jordan 1s, which are the original 1s. They were super cheap back then and we were getting them off of eBay and putting them in the store. When we opened, people like Rocky, Travis, all of them started wearing them, and the price kind of went up. But when we first opened in LA, we had like 50 pairs of them — in the way that no one else ever had, that I'd ever seen. With Luke's, the America's cups, the vintage stuff, has been cool. I'm doing a drop of Ricardo Tisci-era Givenchy stuff. There are so many things that I've put in here that people have gravitated towards that I've been proud of because there were a lot of times at the old company, since all we really sold was Supreme or sneakers, that we'd curate cool things and they wouldn't sell. So it's nice that Luke's is more of a niche thing. People are coming in looking for weird, niche pieces, or at least are more open to it from my experience. If you're pandering to the lowest common denominator of consumers, it's harder to curate or steer people towards adventurous things.
I was going to say exactly that. It sounds like in the past it was kind of about accommodating what you thought people were looking for. And in this case, you're putting things out that you're into and then hoping that the right crowds will also be into those things, which is cool.
So far so good. But, you know, I could lose my touch at any time [laughs].
What is the weirdest or strangest piece that you've come across?
I was recently looking at something that we have downstairs in the basement right now, it's from the Bottega runway and it's a woven, leather yoga mat holder. I love expensive, useless things. I think true luxury is buying something that you really don't need and are gonna throw in the back of your car and not care about. But of course, it's still beautifully crafted. When I think of the actual luxury consumers that these companies target, I assume it's the people who are just buying a Birkin and throwing it in the back of their Volvo truck. Obviously, I don't really know, but that's what I envision.
You talked before about being able to guide people towards more adventurous options. But I think no matter how you dress, most people have certain codes that they follow. What is one rule or outfit component that you usually don't leave the house without?
The thing that guides a lot of my purchases is that I like expensive versions of things that people would normally have that are inexpensive. Whether it's the Louis Vuitton version of Timberlands or right now I'm wearing the Balenciaga Birkenstocks that look almost exactly the same, but they're a little bit different. Things that most people won't notice, but if they do notice, I'm like, "Oh, this person's on it." Or even if they don't notice, I don't care because I still think it's cool. It's not stealth wealth and I don't think it's quiet luxury. It's a different thing. I don't know if there's a term for it but I'm gonna try and come up with one.
Most of my closet is secondhand because I find it more fun to shop that way as well. But I also know some people who struggle with buying resale because you're starting with a different canvas. I think the biggest obstacle is that people feel that it's hard to impart their own style onto these pieces that already have their own vibe going on. So what is your best advice for people who struggle with styling vintage or secondhand looks?
I think you're right. It can be difficult because I think a lot of people don't have a strong enough personal style to see a piece out in the wild that's not styled by someone else and to think about how they can style it. I think people need to try stuff on and have fun with it and have fun with envisioning it in their wardrobe. But I know that's easier said than done 'cause there's nothing more disappointing than when you have an outfit in your head and you put it on and it looks like shit. Like we've been saying, I definitely think it's easier to do so being in New York.
Heading into this one-year anniversary, what are you most proud of?
I mean, not being homeless. But really, this is the first time that I've done something like this without partners. And I, obviously, have a huge support system and a great team around me who's helped me, so I'm not saying that I've done this fully by myself. But to steer the ship by myself fully and having an idea of what I wanted to do over a year ago and to now have it already come to fruition has felt really good. I left LA, and I still have a house there and my fiancée is there, but I felt it was a better move to do this in New York. It's been really hard being here by myself, but I feel like I made the right decision with all of this. So it's been nice to know that everything I've sacrificed is worth it and I made the right decision to do so.