Why did you choose QUIN, Don Toliver, and Wale as collaborators for Since I Have A Lover?
I always just make the music first. Then if I hear somebody’s voice, it’ll pop into my head in a moment where maybe I have an empty space on the song that I didn’t complete. I’ll listen to it with that empty space for a while then hear one of my friend’s voices pop up in my head. That’s normally how it happens. For the song with Wale, I had finished the entire song, and then toward the end, I just kept saying ‘I hear somebody else but it’s not me.’ I hear poetry so it has to be Wale. For Don, I had an open space for a hook, and knowing that he was one of my favorite artists throughout the pandemic so I reached out and made it happen. QUIN is obviously my partner and one of my best friends.
Who do you want to collaborate with in the future?
I would love to make a song with Erkyah, James Fauntleroy, The Dream, and Frank. I’m open to anything. There are tons of people I haven’t worked with who I would love to work with. I would love to work with Sade even though she doesn’t do collabs.
During your discussion with Sadhguru, you touched on the point of Black women being the blueprint. How do you incorporate the inspiration of Black women into your music and daily life?
By opening my eyes and opening my ears. Some of the best advice and most unbiased opinions that I’ve ever gotten were from the people around me and the women around me. I’ve always been the leader for my group of friends as far as guys go, but it’s always cool to have a perspective that’s like, ‘Hey, you need to get your shit together. I can see you, and you might look cool to everybody else, but you have a little bit more work to do.’ It’s hard to accept in the beginning, but it’s so necessary in order to grow.
Are there any direct Black women in your life who give you daily inspiration?
My mom for sure. She was there from the very beginning of what wasn’t even a career during the time. Besides the music, she took on the responsibility of raising three kids, having to make sure everything was covered, and still allowing space for there to be some kind of creative outlet. If it weren’t for her, then I probably wouldn’t even be on this call right now.
If you were a yogi, what is some advice you would give to people who want people to slow down and take care of themselves?
I would honestly just say to be gentle with yourself, and be gentle with other people. That’s the best piece of advice. I’m even taking it for myself today and with everything that I do, with every conversation I have, with every conflict that pops up. I’m really taking my time and not getting worked up, not overreacting, and allowing myself to be responsible and seeing what that does for my life.
Were those some of the issues you faced that made daily life difficult?
For sure. You have pent-up feelings of resentment towards something. Then you get caught off guard and the next thing you know you’re reacting or overreacting. I know what the best version of myself is and I love to be proactive, to listen, and to figure things out.
Why is therapy important to you?
I really had to talk to somebody on the outside to figure out how I feel inside. It was the main thing that I know I was struggling with. I left therapy feeling like I had trained for football or a sport. I know so much better now and it’s not even that I need a specific answer about anything in my life. I just needed to get it out of my head and my body, and once I got it out I had a better idea of how to handle myself next time versus just continuing to create this story that’s way more dramatic than it has to be.
What are some of your goals moving forward?
I would love to put on some weight and take care of my body. I also want to spend as much time as I can with my daughter and continue to figure out ways to help myself and help the people around me figure out the rest of our lives in the most fun and creative ways possible. I want to make more cool shit.