I feel like there so many media spaces that are just pretending to be unbiased and open, like yours is, but there's a barrier in being able to trust what they're saying about sex, especially towards women. And as a women, it's hard to find anyone talking about sex unless it’s in the context of politics, but there's not always the substance behind that sentiment with so much of the feminist message having become commercialied. And then there's shit like Cosmo— and we end up with either the stereotypical "Angry Feminist" or just plain sexism.
I’m not afraid of being the "Mad Feminist". But I want to make sure this is a place where we celebrate that concept and don't condemn. Instead of using our energy saying, “you’re doing the wrong thing”, we just find the people doing the right thing and focus on featuring that.
And what about allowing men to enter the conversation?
It’s funny because I don't really care if men have an opinion in the Salty space at all. My sister in law asked if this was a place where men can be educated on feminism, and I responded that it wasn’t. I frankly don't have the time. There’s so much rage-bait, we know how infuriating it is to be a woman having sex today. Can we just have a space that talks about it? It’s the kind of conversation that you would have with your girlfriends, on modern dating and relationships. We’re not going to be an educational platform because as soon as you start to talk about Feminist Sex, people want to do panels and talks. It becomes very granola, and Salty is sexy and fun. It's kind of part Playboy, part Cosmo— but minus all the bullshit.
You're unifying without even trying to be unifying— because we're are all able to understand such a relateable subject.
I'm not here for us to be picking each other apart, we all have to help each other. There is no hidden agenda, we’re not trying to sell you something in the background. How the fuck we're gonna make any money, I'm not sure yet— but I know the brands will come.
Well lifestyle products are a good way to make money, so you can work with vibrators and sex toy companies?
I don't really know if we want to go down that route. Once you do that you become “the sex toy space”, and it's like, no— sex is relationships, health, working out, lifestyle, communication. It's so many other things. I really see Salty becoming bigger than that so there’s a long term goal, and gain here. Inclusivity and intersectionality has to be baked into the brand because these larger brands are too big to pivot, the culture there is so exclusionary. These kind of voices have to come from the outside like you have to be an independent media brand in order to include people in the way they want.
Yeah, the message is much more believable when it comes from independent publications, rather than these big corporate ones, because, as we discussed before— there is always a hidden agenda. Or it is run by bros.