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Ania Hobson: Fires Outside The Frame

Now, debuting her first exhibition in LA, Ania has begun to slowly unveil what exists outside the frame: hands reaching in, the gaze becoming ever-so-centered, and a full image taking shape as the fires in her paintings kindle more than ever, radiating notions of self-healing and an unwavering spirit of empowerment.

 

In our conversation, we discussed her latest exhibition, art as a form of therapy, a profound love for coats, and much more.

 

Let’s start with your most recent exhibition in LA, “Playing with Fire”—tell me about the symbolism referenced behind the recurring motif of fires and flames in your work.

 

I picked “Playing With Fire” because I like looking at emotions as it is with my figures. It can also be something dangerous, romantic, angry, or even just deeply passionate. I think it says a lot about that being a survival thing for us. It’s comforting but also dangerous if it gets out of hand. It’s all those things I was looking at. The drawing there was called “Call Me Emotional”, and it was based on women being called crazy, and I wanted these ladies to be angry but very strong and powerful in themselves. It’s like an army marching toward the viewers.

 

Speaking about your work being very emotionally charged, would you say that informed your decision to shift to a dominantly red color palette?

 

The red definitely for me was an emotional thing for me that expressed what I was going through at the time—a really bad break-up. I was so angry and it felt horrible, but suddenly my paintings went red which was shocking, and at the same time, really beautiful too. It just did something to me and I really enjoyed it.

 

Some of your earlier paintings do feature the subtle red outline around the subjects too, so would you also say it also sparked around that time?

 

The background being more red was around the break-up, yes. In terms of the outlines being red, I think that might’ve started seven years ago, but it was more to reference blood, reminiscent of when you’d hold your hand up to the light and there’s that slight appearance of the red haze almost. It really made the figure pop out, but also add life to the paintings. So now, for me, the paintings aren’t alive yet or finished if the red outline isn’t present.

Now exhibiting more across the US, do you feel there’s been a difference in how your work is received over there, in comparison to the UK art scenes and its audience, acknowledging your work deals entirely with British society and the varying subcultures?

 

Erm… not really, no. I think more because a lot of my interest has always been in the US. In the UK, I’ve had the occasional group shows, but the majority of my collectors or galleries have always been from the US. Honestly, wouldn’t know why but I think because it’s quite bold or out there, maybe that’s why. A lot of people have told me they could see why the Americans might like it, maybe because of the style I think. As long as I’m painting and they’re being seen, then I’m happy.

 

And as you continue exhibiting, and evidently being more present in the US, do you see your work capturing images of life on that side of the pond?

 

I don’t think so, probably not. Obviously, when I went to LA I did the Joshua Tree National Park and I also love people-watching, so I was definitely inspired being there. The colors in LA also being so much beige and red, I felt like I could create so much while I was there. I really enjoyed my time there. I think anywhere that you travel, you will always come away with something, whether it’s a person, color, smell, or even being in that moment.

 

Sounds like we should expect a move over to LA at some point…

 

It’s funny because I could actually see myself being in LA, and people tell me it’s quite weird, but I really do love it there. It’s really great because you’ve got the desert for a few hours, and then we did the Sequoia, and then Malibu Beach for a day. It was so fun, and coming from the UK, it’s massive. The scale for me is something you just don’t get anywhere else. I also wondered what I could do in a painting with the desert, so that’s been playing in my mind a ton.

 

 

The last time we spoke, a lot of the subjects of your paintings still embodied the outlooking gaze to either side of the frame which you said comes from the inspiration from comic books and what happens in the next scene. With this recent exhibition, we’ve begun seeing a slight change with the subjects now having a more forward gaze, directly at the viewers or at themselves in the frame. What informed this change and how does it speak to the underpins behind your work?

 

The outward was to certainly draw attention to something going outside the painting. And now, as I’m starting to capture a lot of the social scene and themes along that line, a lot of the gaze is directed towards the viewer a lot more. One drawing I’m doing is called “social anxiety”, and we know that people who have that always feel like everyone is staring at them, but they’re really not. So it’s supposed to create this image of you walking into a bar, and now the subject is looking in your direction, essentially you becoming part of the conversation going on in the painting. I want the audience to engage with the painting beyond just viewing.

 

Noting the other colors also present in those paintings, besides the red, is each one representative of a different emotion, or are the colors acting in different forms to portray that one singular motif of emotion?

 

Yeah, I think color is so important. With the blue and yellow in this one, it’s a cool and calm feeling. And in the tunnel, there isn’t much going on so it’s a more relaxed scene happening in this painting at night. The dark blue car was also me wanting it to be kind of quiet within the painting.

 

Beyond attention to detail with the colors and tonality, is there any other facet of the art that you feel plays a seminal role in its creation?

 

Composition and coats actually. I just love doing coats. I love the shapes of them. They make me sort of play around with the paint and the movement of the paint. I can do certain brushmarks and I like the direction it's moving which would usually move in the way the coat would fall or where the falls would be. It adds so much depth to the painting. I also love shapes so much, like in a painting I did where her shoulders are really not anatomically correct, but I love how the coat just sat on her shoulders. I have so many coats, so when it comes summertime I’ve got nothing to wear, just coats and a lot of boots… that’s why I’ve got them all around the studio.

 

On composition, I also noticed you have the line tattoo going down your arm. Does that relate to your paintings in any way?

 

I love tattoos that are in line with the body. Bodies have such a nice shape and everything is so angular. I love the shapes you can create with the body, and I think it’s all about alignment and the way the body is structured. It’s just beautiful.

 

 

I also love that you reference other parts of pop culture like fashion in your work, and I’m curious if there are any other forms of pop culture or creative expression that you pull inspiration from like music, literature, film, or even performative arts?

 

When I listen to music, and for anyone really, you’re sort of put in a place. And for me, that’s a place of drawing… creating scenes and images in my head. I could also be sitting in a bar, and I’m such a people watcher, so I might spot someone walking a certain way and the light just hitting them perfectly. People also think I’m a bit weird because I love people-watching so much. I think I’m quite discreet so I guess I’ve never had any weird moments when I’m watching. I like music without lyrics a lot more, especially instrumental music, because it’s down to me or whoever to create their own story along with the song. I love jazz, rap, or really anything. It’s a little bit of everything. I’ve also just been really visual because I was born partially deaf, so as a kid I was always looking or lip-reading which is why the face became so important for me.

 

On finding therapy within your paintings—you being the artist reflecting her emotions onto the canvas, do they ever speak back to you and help you find resolution with your feelings? 

 

Yeah, I think it’s always been my go-to when I want to chill out, except when you’re trying to hit deadlines, then you’re panic painting. But certainly, I do find when I’m not painting much, I feel much different. Some days I could feel really stressed and anxious, and when I start painting it just totally disappears. It’s like meditation and it’s my world. I don’t know who the hell I would be without painting, it’s simply me.

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