With this experience bringing together artists, designers and architects such as Faye Toogood and Hattie Fox, how did you approach collaboration?
I tend to work with people whose worlds I’m already interested in, and often people I have a personal connection with. I think that makes a huge difference.
The starting point was to give everyone the same loose idea of a pilgrimage, but not dictate how they should respond to it. I wanted each person to bring something of themselves to the journey.
I’m not particularly interested in inviting brilliant people into a project and then telling them exactly what to make. The exciting part is seeing how differently people interpret the same idea.
There’s a certain amount of trust involved, and a willingness to let things evolve in ways you hadn’t imagined. That’s often where the most interesting work happens.
These collaborators brought their experiences using different materials. How did this expertise inform the tactile quality of the space?
Material is incredibly important to me. I’m drawn to things that feel as though they’ve had a life before you encounter them. Wood, stone, clay, metal, fabric — materials that carry the marks of the people who’ve worked with them.
We wanted the space to feel made rather than manufactured. Something with imperfections, weight and texture. A place where you might instinctively want to touch things.
Each collaborator has their own relationship with materials, and that brings a richness you couldn’t achieve through one person’s vision alone.
I think there’s also something very human about craftsmanship. You can see the collaborators hands all over the works. You can feel the time that’s gone into making something, even if you don’t necessarily understand the process. That felt particularly important in a project concerned with journeys, rituals and the passage of time.
What can a restaurant offer that a gallery or exhibition space cannot?
You get to live with and inside the work a little.
In a gallery, there’s often an unspoken distance between you and the art. You’re there to look, to consider, perhaps to understand something.
A restaurant removes a lot of those boundaries.
I’ve always found that much more interesting than asking people simply to observe something.
There’s also a generosity to hospitality that I love. You’re not just presenting an idea to someone; you’re looking after them.
For me, that’s a very beautiful way of making art.