Sukeban Versus the World
To be a delinquent when softness is expected, to be cute in a sport that demands intimidation — Sukeban leaves nothing untouched. The term “sukeban,” quite literally translating to “delinquent girl,” harks back to 1960s and 70s Japan when girl gangs ruled the streets. Those 'sukeban' were the ones sneaking cigarettes in school bathrooms, founding the 80-member United Shoplifters group, and leading Japan’s sexual revolution. Fast forward to today, and their modern counterparts are revolutionizing pro-wrestling clad in latex and cat ears, defying anyone’s singular definition of womanhood. Sukeban is wrestling for renegades — it’s not about shattering the glass ceiling but cultivating a space without a ceiling at all.
office— You were only 15 when you started wrestling professionally. How did you learn you wanted to be a wrestler?
Bull Nakano— I had a strong sense of independence. I had a strong desire to enter society as soon as possible, earn money with my own hands, and make a living.
How did you decide on your ring name, Bull Nakano?
BN— The decision was made by AJW and Fuji TV's producers. My seniors in pro-wrestling were Dump Matsumoto and Crane Yu, and we all had names of heavy machinery — dump trucks, crane trucks, bulldozers. At first, I was called Bulldozer Nakano, but because the logo was bad, it was changed to Bull Nakano.
What is your favorite move?
BN— There are many, but the most synonymous one is the guillotine leg drop. I am proud to see this moment highlighted on the Sukeban championship belt.
In your matches, you often play a villainous role — do you find those roles more fun?
BN— I didn't like it at first, but once I decided to live my life as a villain, I regained my freedom, just like the sukeban of old. I think it became fun.
You founded Sukeban after retiring and spending some time in pro-golf — two very different sports. What drew you back to the world of wrestling?
BN— I like to think I never left wrestling. When I tried out for the AJW dojo, many people thought I would quit. Many years later, I still haven’t quit. Pro-wrestling never leaves your spirit. I lived in Florida for nine years and I played golf, but in my heart, I am Bull Nakano.
Before founding Sukeban, you wrestled all throughout the 80s and 90s. What are some differences between Sukeban matches and your matches with the AJW?
BN— AJW matches are battles — battles of bodies, thoughts, and aspirations, and we killed each other! But I think the Sukeban matches are a battle against the world. Sukeban has a broader view of the world that even people who have never watched pro-wrestling can get into. It is splendor, speed, luxury, and elegance in battle, as well as character creation unique to Sukeban, with fashion, costumes, gowns, hair and makeup, and nails that have meaning for everyone and people everywhere. This is an eye-catching organization.
The reception to the New York World Premiere was overwhelmingly positive in both the US and Japan. But I told our wrestlers that you can’t live off the success of the previous event. You have to make the next event even better. And then you have to make the next event even better again.
What’s the importance of fashion for the Sukeban girls?
BN— Sukeban intersects with the lively Japanese fashion of the good old days. For Sukeban, fashion is self-expression and a symbol of freedom and power.
Sukeban is different from every other pro-wrestling company. We are treated like movie stars with famous makeup artists and nail artists and Hollywood hairdressers. The wrestlers also wear different costumes, unlike what they are accustomed to. Fashion is extremely important in Sukeban, and I think we have torn down the wall between these worlds. Working with someone like Olympia Le-Tan, I think we can bring interest to Sukeban in a way that nobody in wrestling has ever done.
In English, ‘sukeban’ means ‘delinquent girl,’ or the leader of a girl gang. What’s the importance of delinquency, specifically for Japanese women?
BN— I think at the time it was resistance to the transition from a girl to a woman. “I want to stop time. I can't become an adult yet, and I don't want to.” Maybe all the dilemmas, fears, and dissatisfaction turned into rebellion, and they protected themselves by wearing the sukeban armor, makeup and clothes.
Through Sukeban, how do you hope to advance the world of wrestling?
BN— Sukeban's philosophy is to bring the best female professional wrestlers from Japan to audiences around the world. This includes not only wrestling fans, but also new fans who are new to women's wrestling. We believe we have the most talented roster in the world. We will continue to increase the number of wrestlers. We want to provide the best platform for wrestlers to flourish, while also incorporating new elements for fans to engage with Sukeban wrestlers and content, such as anime, manga, fashion, and culture.
When people watch Sukeban, they are going to have a fun time. I think this is a given. But I strive for more. I want people to wake up the next morning and be inspired by Sukeban. I want people to watch Sukeban and know that they can leave their comfort zones, fight hard, and do their best every day.
So far, what has been the highlight of your wrestling career?
Countess Saori— I have had many highlights in my wrestling career, but I haven’t reached the biggest one that I envision yet.
Crush Yuu— I think my career highlight is getting to travel around the world to be the best wrestler I can be. I have traveled to the UK for many years and won championships. Wrestling is my life. That’s why I care so much about Sukeban in America. I’m not just satisfied with New York and Miami. I have high expectations for Sukeban, and I hope it will continue to grow. It will help me be one of the top wrestlers in the world.
Atomic Banshee— I think my biggest highlight it still to come.
While working with Olympia Le-Tan on your costumes, what types of characters are you trying to represent and why? Why go with a cute costume when wrestling tends to demand fear and intimidation?
CS— The costumes are cute yet scary. Scary yet cute. I believe this duality is the greatest charm.
CY— The costumes Olympia created are very unique, and we enjoy bringing these new characters to life. In Japan I am Yuu, but when I wear my Cherry Bomb Girls costume I am Crush Yuu, and it allows me to present a whole new side of myself.
AB— Female punk icons like Siouxsie Sioux, Jordan (Pamela Rooke), Soo Catwoman, etc., exude a powerful and aggressive appearance. By adding KAWAII to the rebellious spirit of such women, it becomes unbeatable. I believe Olympia expresses this in a modern yet retro fashion.
What’s your favorite move?
CS— I like to win matches with a Suplex.
CY— Despite what I look like, I like to run [laughs] I do a move called the cannonball, where I run across the ring, flip into my opponent, and attack them with my back. Then I also win matches with a splash, where I climb the ropes, swing enough to almost break the ring, and then jump onto someone.
AB— Sticking my thumb in someone’s eye.
What makes Sukeban stand out in the world of Japanese wrestling? What’s the importance of delinquency, specifically for Japanese women?
CS— Sukeban has big arenas, top-notch lighting, and the best comrades. I believe Sukeban can create an extraordinary experience in Japan that goes beyond the ordinary. I think the essence of delinquency is not caring about others' opinions. Being true to oneself. Living as the coolest version of oneself. There's no need to conform to others.
CY— Sukeban has a special makeup, fashion, and characters. These are the best things, and you can only see them in Sukeban. I want to keep looking for new and exciting things in the future without getting caught up in the present. I am a strong Japanese woman, and I want the whole world to know it.
AB— I think what sets Sukeban apart is the emphasis on fashion and visuals, which has been lacking in the wrestling world until now. And also a very multifaceted interpretation of the concept of pro wrestling, incorporating so many different new elements to make it easier for new fans to comprehend. I think delinquency in women is fascinating. There is a hidden beauty in the immoral.