Has the studio been going well?
AR— We just moved out of her. So three years, we just moved out, and we're going to look for a new space, but it definitely held us down on all fronts. Like if there's another pandemic, we need to find another hideaway.
Okay, so what would you say is your starting point when you're starting to create work together? Do you guys both just play off of each other? Or does someone come up with something with a specific idea? Or do you kind of meet in the middle? And both go your own ways?
AR— A little bit of everything?
PD— Yeah, I would say we talk about it out loud to each other, and just talk about things that are inspiring us at the moment, whether it's personal things, or nature, whatever. We just start to kind of flow off of each other's thoughts. We always have notepads. So we draw away, or we come together and draw, and just sketch out different concepts that we would like to see. Then that's how the very beginning of some of the collections start off.
You ever send each other references from films, or I know you all love Mary J. Blige, like those other R&B girls, but if you're like, “‘I'm feeling a little blocked today,”’ Is there something that you might just kind of open, or look to, and be like, “‘okay’?”
PD— I feel like both of our, like, personal mood boards or images and different references that we collect, like our library of photos and other references, it's really big. So we definitely send each other stuff online or via text message, and just to like, go off of silhouettes and shapes, and things that we like and want to figure out ways to make ourselves. If it's something like a photo that we're showing, it's already from the past, it's not the future because it's already been documented. So, how can we take that to the next level?
I was reading in this other interview; I think it was on, I think it was Cultured or Vogue, but y'all pretty much met nearly 10 years ago.
AR— We met in 2016 or something, close to about eight years ago.
PD— Yeah, we’ve been best bitches for a while.
I'm just wondering how LA has kind of facilitated this ongoing friendship and collaboration, because y'all could really be anywhere. I feel like your creativity is very much in line with your surroundings. So how has LA held y'all both down throughout this whole process?
PD— I feel like when Autumn and I first met, we were going out a lot. Like, going to different art events, going to different parties. At that time, in LA, it was, like, nice to go out and meet people, and go to different events to get inspired, and just be social, and be in a community with like-minded people. So that was our start, I think. I feel like our bond and our relationship, I would say, compared to where we are now from when we first met, we're not as social anymore in a way. Compared to our first meeting, compared to now, I think it's more because of the pandemic and everything else, LA has kind of slowed down. So, it's just really helped us with finding our art and our focus. I think just the relationship that we have, and how we come together, it's just very beautiful. That's a lot of what inspires the things that we're creating as well. It's like a marriage in a way. No Sesso is our baby, and we're just beautiful things that we're feeling.