Is that a pressure that you feel sometimes? Or is it more so making sure that whatever you put out is representative of you?
I think one of the best pieces of advice that I've gotten was, if you like it, someone else is gonna like it. So if I'm with it and I think it's dope, I don't really take on the pressure of trying to satisfy other people.
We talked a little bit about this punk aspect that comes in a lot of your songs. A lot of your accompanying visuals are inspired by punk glam, badass feminine heroes, and video games. What pop culture references shaped your persona and continue to impact your music?
Gwen Stefani and Madonna both shaped me. I think Destiny's Child shaped my pop culture references as well. Step Up, Mortal Combat, Zelda. Those are definitely staples in my psyche.
You talked before about this past moment of dissatisfaction that you're finally shifting out of. When you wear so many hats, sometimes it becomes hard to not be boxed in by other people. I feel like it has to be difficult to take on so many things and to be able to have them all coexist at the same time, while still being able to preserve your own identity.
Everyone wears a thousand hats. Do you know what I mean? And it's extremely hard. You just have to look and see what is unsettling to you. My personal dissatisfaction was that I didn't like a lot of the tastemaking around me. It was like, 'How are you telling me that this song is bad when I think it's amazing?' I kept running into these clashes, but I was like, 'This is not me.'
But I'm sure that was very freeing and just a release. Taking ownership is a bold thing to do.
I also want to highlight the fact that it's so hard. So people that are undeniably themselves, I'm like, 'Wow, I love you.' You can tell when someone is radiating that and they just don't care. I love that. That's true swag. And then if they have sick style or make sick art alongside it, I'm like, 'Yeah, we should have a baby.'
I think that your energy is really infectious, so if you could read your own aura, what color would it be?
The first one that comes to mind is purple. Purple is probably the last color I'd choose for most things, but that's what I think it would be.
Your work has started to intersect with these other really interesting spaces. I think it's cool that you grew up really appreciating these video game references because now it seems like that is still woven into what you do. How do you hope that those relationships grow and what are other projects that you hope to take on in that world?
All of these things were so in sync. I think it all started with League of Legends and IMVU and those birthed my existence in the meta world. Cut to now and we're dropping music in Web3 and it's been extremely organic.
I feel like it only makes sense because those are also genuine interests of yours. Anything that feels effortless is just second nature for you. When it comes to fashion, what types of looks do you usually gravitate toward?
Well, I love ugly clothes. I always have. I think my undertone is always rock and roll. So that can be translated in so many ways, whether it's preppy, futuristic, or girly. I'm all of those things, and I think all of us are. Now I'm super focused on getting one piece and building up from there. My style has changed vigorously throughout the years but it just comes down to how comfortable you feel and how good you feel in your clothes. I've now transitioned into wearing mostly boys' clothes. I'm gonna rock it out with belts and baggy clothes because right now that makes me feel sexy.
Exactly. I think if you feel good, then you look good.
I'm also a challenger. I like to be challenged. If something is known to be an ugly piece then I want to wear it.
That's the most fun thing — challenging yourself, especially in fashion. You have plans to release your album, Influx, in March — can you give me three words to describe it, sonically or aesthetically?
Multi-dimensional and immersive. It's a sensory experience. It's also very pretty — there are a lot of feminine undertones.
What has been the most memorable part of the whole album-making process?
I think the most fun parts have been some of the sessions actually creating the songs. I had to get out of a deal and it was so much tedious work. But it was all fun. Creating "Psycho Freak" and "Boys Taste Like Drugs" were probably my favorite. My friend was having a party the night we made "Boys Taste Like Drugs" and people started coming to his house. We were playing it and, literally, the song conjured so much energy. Everybody started moshing in the room and throwing their bodies around. I was like, 'Whoa. This is the reaction to the song that we just made!' We also flew out to the Dominican Republic and orchestrated all of the album artwork and that experience alone was so unhinged and such a gift. That's what I live for.