Your ‘cakeface’ series was a huge hit this past year! Can you talk a bit more about the origins of this look?
So it was two things. One was flipping cake face, because I remember in high school, I didn't really wear makeup, and other people would. And sometimes people would be really mean to them about the amount of makeup they were wearing, using the term, 'cake face.' And I was like, 'That's really mean. Why is that a bad thing, if someone wants to wear makeup? Why are we making this a meme, when it could be really cool?' I wish when I was in high school I was trying the stuff that the other girlies were doing. But that was one thing: just flipping something that I grew up hearing that was very, very negative and very mean and meant to degrade other people, and turning it into something that's very creative— not even necessarily positive, but just interesting and intriguing and bright and colorful and just kind of whimsical.
Then the other thing is, last year or two years ago, I just started getting all these little bakeries on my (Instagram) Explore page. Do you know what I'm talking about? The little cakes, like tiny little cakes, that have a ton of frosting on them. And it's all very intricate. There's so many different little bakeries that are making these tiny little specialty cakes. And I was like, "Hmm, that'd be really cool if you just put that on your face somewhere." And that's where it really came from. So it was a combination of those two ideas.
Social media has been an important way to share your work and connect with fans of your art. How do you feel about your relationship with the internet?
I think the one thing about the internet is sometimes you think it's a battle with the internet, but it's really just how you, yourself, view the internet. It's not you versus the internet— it's you versus what you feel about the internet. I've definitely gotten better at this, but there was a point in time where I was just like, 'If I don't get enough likes on a post, then that means that my work wasn't good, and everybody hates it, and I need to take it down.' But that's just not the case. Because at the end of the day, did I like it? Did I think that it was good? Did I think that it was that it was a good piece of art that I made or a good makeup look that I did? My negative relationship I had with my thoughts about the internet and my thoughts about how my work was being consumed by other people forced me to change my mindset about my own work. The reason why I started posting on Instagram wasn't for other people. And it wasn't for likes, and it wasn't for attention. It was because I was exploring something, and trying something new, and wanting to get better at something that I was interested in, and just having fun. So my big thing that I've learned is the minute you feel like it's not fun anymore is when you need to reevaluate that relationship you have with what you think the internet is. So yeah, I mean, it's been ups and downs, but at this point in my Instagram career, I just kind of am like, 'I'm gonna post when I want!' Cause it's my like 'internet diary.' Like, it's my little documentary. So if I want to jot something down, I'm gonna jot it down. So being in the position I'm in has made me analyze my relationship with the internet and the internet itself much more closely because it's now become such a big part of my life because it's my job.