Your “Intro” to your EP, Lost, is extremely vulnerable and spoken from the heart. Can you discuss the decision to start your debut EP with a spoken poem about the struggles you have endured and about living authentically?
Just so people can know more about me. That was kind of the point of the whole album, but I feel like I’m gonna go even more into detail in my next album. But, that was kinda just like a stepping stone in the right direction. I wanted to put that out there. A lot of people be like, That intro is insane, I didn’t know that about you. It’s just like being more personable, ‘cause, at the end of the day, people who support me, I want them to know more about me because they care. It’s not like some fake-follower, fake-fan shit. My fan base really fucking cares about me, all the DMs I get… I talk to them all the time. They deserve to know more about me.
Openness about mental health is important to you. Can you discuss this journey and why it is so important?
I feel like I’ve always been emotionally detached from a lot of shit. I always really really really liked being by myself. At a time in my life when I was out of my house, when I was partying, I got it all out of my system. But that’s when I started drinking at these parties was when I started feeling depression, because I’d never felt that shit before, ever. I wasn’t worried about that shit. But I remember after my homie died, I didn’t even go to his funeral. I cried for about two days. Then, I didn’t cry until a whole year after that. I’m really passionate about [mental health] because… I don’t wanna go too much into detail, but, you know, life got hard for me. Life got hard for people that I know. My best friend killed himself. So, after that, I made a whole 360 on my life and started figuring out shit that was important. Not really playing victim with shit, just taking a hold and control of whenever I’m feeling down, whenever I’m feeling like this, putting that energy in a positive way with the music. Putting out my experience, so people can learn from them. I don’t want people to have to experience the shit that I had to experience to be successful. You don’t wanna have to go down that low into the ground and then have to try to dig yourself out. Because it’s hella risky. The shit I was doin’ was hella risky, mentally. I’m glad how it all worked out, because I feel like now, even at fuckin’ 20, I don’t really feel like nothing can bother me anymore.
What are you choosing to say with your EP coming out later this year? What story are you telling?
Just kinda my mindset, where I’m at right now. I wouldn’t even say a whole ass message I’m tryna put out because each song has a different message. I guess it's just more music from me, more real shit from me. Probably some of my favorite songs that I’ve ever recorded. I just hope that somebody really takes away something from any of the songs. I don’t wanna have a broad generic message because I love the opinions.
So it’s more up to the interpretation of your fans. So, what’s your favorite song you’ve ever made and why?
It’s an unreleased song.
Is it a secret?
Nah, it’s not a secret… I’ll sing a little…
[then I got serenaded with a dope unreleased song]
That was really great.
What?
I liked it.
*laughs* Thank you. Yeah, I got a lot of unreleased shit, ‘cause when I’m in Arizona, I don’t record because I like to just live my life. I feel like it’s very important… People live images. People gotta be this typa way if they’re an artist, you know, carry on this image, but for me, my image is just me. So, when I get down here, I like to just live my life and not record, and get inspiration from shit out here. Whether it’s my homies, or, I’m kinda isolated out here, just me ‘n my girl. A lot of people get lost in the sauce up in L.A. I just wanna always keep it 100, keep me and my mental health where it’s supposed to be. I feel that.
What are your goals for this upcoming year?
I don’t really have goals like that. Lowkey, I just live in the moments. I really do, I’m not even just saying it just to say it. If shit happens, it happens, if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. I just learned it, just to be okay with wherever I’m at in life. Obviously wanting better for myself, but I think I had a problem with… I would set goals, like I wanna hit a monthly million listeners, that typa shit. But I noticed I would get caught up in the highs too much, and then get caught up in the lows too much. So, I’m kinda learning to just stay in the middle. And it helps me with stress and pressure and all that, because I don’t feel it anymore. Obviously, I get nervous, like when I had to do my first show in Amsterdam, but other than that, I don’t feel that… That’s why I feel like I’m so good right now with my music state of mind, because I’m really just focused on me. I have a strong faith in myself that everything will work out, and one day I’ll get to where I wanna be. I don’t know when, but I know that my consistency is gonna be good.
That’s really good advice. Staying in the middle.
Yeah, it sucks, because I remember when I was in LA the first time when my shit was bumpin’, but money was running low before I signed. I was stressing, and everything was starting to become more businessy. Thinking back to when I started recording with my homies, just getting high, having fun with it. That should be it every time, because if I’m not having fun with this, then why the fuck am I doing it?
True. If you could say one thing to new fans, what would you say?
Uh, welcome…
That’s a good answer.
… I hope you guys connect with me in some way. I hope you fuck with me. At the end of the day, I want fans that are really gonna fuck with me, I don’t want the saturated-ass typa fan bases that come and go. Most of the time when people see me and listen to my music, they connect with it. If you don’t connect with it, then don’t support me… pretty much. I don’t wanna none of that fake shit.