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From one viral hit to the next, Riovaz’s sonic experimentation is exciting and demands all attention. While no two songs sound the same, you automatically know when it’s a Riovaz song, and that's the point. Leading up to his tour, office got the chance to talk to the artist and catch a glimpse of what Riorave is all about.
Continue reading below for an exclusive interview.
How are you today? What have you been up to?
I just woke up like an hour ago. Honestly, I just ate my first meal of the day. My day is really just starting right now.
What did you have?
It's like this Ecuadorian dish where I'm from. It's called bolon– like plantain in one ball. It's really fire.
So you're off to LA, I'm assuming for the start of your tour, right?
Yeah, Riorave, sold out LA show. First LA show. It's gonna be dope.
And what are your thoughts and feelings behind the tour? Because it's your first headlining one, right?
I'm really hyped. I love performing. Now it's gonna be my own show and I really want to run it the way I have envisioned in my head for years. So I can't wait to see all of this that we've been prepping for come to life. And my fans have been really eager to come to this LA show, like resell tickets for almost $300. They're fucking hype.
What do you kind of have envisioned for your own shows?
I just imagine my fans really raving or jumping on stage and I'm throwing them off stage. I just want some chaos because that's what I really want to create in my dance world that I'm trying to build. Just like some beautiful, chaotic moment.
Sick. No, it'll be super fun. I feel like a lot of people talk about ‘Prom Nights’ being your viral hit back a couple years ago, but listening to more of your stuff that's been coming out now I feel like you can really see the progression of your sound. Like finding yourself as an artist, you know. But with Riorave, what is it about rave culture that you find inspiring, and what would you categorize Riorave as?
I love the rave culture because it's a sense of comfortability, that when you go to rave, you can really just be yourself. You can dress the way you want and people just accept you for who you are. And I really, really find a lot of comfortability in that because it's hard to feel that comfortable in any other place in the world, because you're always constantly being judged. So that's what really takes me for the rave culture- and also, the music is just hard hitting. I love that shit. It's just like a perfect world to me and I just want to create. I just really want to build that with my own music.
Has there been a time where you would say that maybe you weren't feeling as completely accepted?
Yeah, like growing up. I've definitely felt that in school. I went to school in white suburbia, sorta. Just like jocks and football and I wasn't really fucking with that. I was constantly called weird for not liking it, which never made sense to me. So, music and the people I've met definitely made me feel more accepted. I've made a lot of friends online more than I've made in real life.
You've also mentioned a couple of times that phrase "detaching from reality." Where would you say that your mind goes when you're detaching from reality?
I think about the future a lot. Sometimes it's actual detachment, like dissociation. I'll be watching my life go as if it's a movie and it's really weird. But I just been thinking about the future and that's where my mind wanders off to.
Is it sort of like an excited future and an anxious future because I know a lot of time when you think about the future you can fall into those anxious sort of tendencies.
It's kind of both. Like, I'm really excited about new music and the future of the shows, but that shit comes with a lot of fear. Because I don't know what's actually going to happen. So you get all these thoughts, you don't really know what's happening.
Would you say those sorts of thoughts propel you to continue to do what you do?
Yeah, because I really want to find out what's gonna happen in the end. So I just keep going.
Cool. Yeah, I'm excited to see the aftermath of the show. But yeah, that's kind of funny because I was reading some of your Tweets and somebody asked "What happens after Riorave?" and you talked about playing PS2.
Dude, I just bought one. It's so fun. That's like a whole different world.
Is that where your mind goes when you detach from reality?
Exactly, my mind goes into the PS2– that shit is hard. I fuck with it.
What was your favorite game?
It was these WWE wrestling games. Like Smackdown vs Raw in 2007. But I just got GTA San Andreas for the first time. I never played that game before. Or I'm playing Tony Hawk American Wasteland, something like that. That shit was crazy.
You also started making music at 13. So what were some of those influences and reasons why you chose to start writing music at 13?
I've always been infatuated with music because of my upbringing. My parents loved music, my sister was a singer, and my brother would make beats on FL Studio, and that's the program I use now. My influences that made me start making music was like Famous Dex, Playboy Carti, this was like 2016. And like, Nebu Kiniza is like that guy who made Gassed Up shawty- those were my influences at the time, because I was rapping and singing over these Famous Dex, Playboy Carti type beats. And that was off the Apple headphones. Good times.
So what would you say was the progression to the sound that you're making now? Like, how did you come from Playboy Carti, and Famous Dex to your music, because they're sort of different…
It's just like what I'm listening to at the time. I started making dance music in the summer of 2021 and I heard like, these artists making some dance tracks, and I was really fucking with it. That's when I really wanted to take my singing from here to over here. So I thought my singing over that would be perfect and then I made my first dance song called "Leaving You." And from then on I've just been making dance music.
When would you say was sort of a time where you felt like that tide turning to you being able to go on this headlining tour by yourself?
That was like, beginning of 2022 when I went to Paris for my song, "God Save the Girl" and I did a music video for that. I think that was when I really realized I could really create and make an impact with this type of music. That was really the turning point. Definitely going to Paris and then going right back to school because I was still a senior at the time.
And when you came back to school, how were your classmates reacting?
I came back from Paris on Sunday night, and then I had to go to sleep to go to school that same Monday. And then when I came back I told them I went to Paris, but I felt like they didn't believe me. They just didn't believe what I was doing because I go to school with them, like I grew up with them. It didn't click in their head until after I graduated.
How would you say that social media and being online has shaped you and your music?
I think it saved me in a good way because I've met a lot of cool people that have impacts on my music and my journey. I met the best people on the internet.
So you have an EP that'll finally be released probably a little bit before this interview comes out. So how is this EP different from past projects? And what reactions from fans do you hope to receive?
I hope that they don't get it at the first listen, I want them to get it at the 10th listen or so. This EP is like a journey. It's an arc of who I am as an artist and these different genres that I spread across this EP. It's an introduction to the fans and to let them know what I'm trying to build and who I am as an artist, because people are still confused on who I am as an artist. They'd be asking, what's my genre? Or like, what's my style or whatever. So, this EP could really let them know what I'm really trying to build.
So people are trying to put you in a box? I'd say there's no real sort of category for you and the sky's the limit with you and your music.
When people ask me for my genre, I just say my name. I'm forever evolving so I wouldn't box myself into anything.
No, that's really refreshing to hear because I feel like sometimes in the industry, you do one thing, and you feel like you have to stick to it.
I feel like that's just boring. As an artist, I'd get really bored if I was making dance music for the rest of my life. I just can't imagine that.
So what would you say are your writing processes when you get into the studio?
I find a beat first usually on YouTube, or my producer friends. I just listen to the beat and if I fuck with, I'll load it up onto whatever I'm recording on and then freestyle it in a way. I'll have my mind gone, say these random words, and see whatever fits. Then I just build off that. That's what I've been doing for all my songs. I go into the studio, not knowing what song I'll make and it just kind of just happens.
Would you ever consider delving into making songs in Spanish?
Yeah, I have a Spanish cover on my soundcloud on my archive. It's that one song, “Lamento Boliviano”- it's like a classic song. I sang it in Spanish and my fans were fucking with it. They didn't even know I spoke Spanish. They were like, "Riovaz is Hispanic, like what?" But yeah, I want to tap into the Latin American side for sure cuz they have some fire music too, bro. I'm trying to make some cumbia, I'm trying to make anything dude. I need help from my mom, though, for that proper Spanish.
I feel like you are breaking the norm by diving into all these different areas of what can be deemed as a musician. How would you say that you break the norm?
I don't know. I really just am myself. My EP is actually called "Disturb the Norm," which is funny you say norm. But I don't think I'm actively trying to disturb the norm, I'm just trying to be myself and not be like any other artists on my label or like any artists in the underground. I feel like everybody follows these certain formulas. The formula I do and how I present myself online, or like how I post is just by trusting myself with what I feel is right. I don't like to be on schedule with anything, so I just do what feels right. I feel like that's kind of disturbing the norm, because people are just on schedule and everything is pre-planned and shit.
If you had to say one thing to the people who doubted you growing up or didn't believe in your music, what would you tell them?
I'd honestly just laugh in their face because I've dealt with so much shit like that. I'd just say, "Bro, like stop talking." People were so worried about what I was doing instead of themselves just because nobody was making music in my town, or whatever. So just worry about what you got going on because if you fuck with the next person, they're gonna be bigger than you. Trust, you hate on someone– they're gonna be bigger than you. I've seen too many stories like that.
What would you say is your goal for this year?
My goal is honestly is to get people familiar. I also want to get my flowers this year. I feel like "I Feel Fantastic" was one of the first, after Pink Pantheress, was one of the first house songs that really took TikTok by storm because that shit was everywhere. I feel like a lot of people overlooked that. So I think this year I want to get my flowers for what I did, because a lot of people overlooked that.
It'll happen for sure! Is there anything else that you wanted to mention?
I have a single out this Friday, "U Neva." That song has been in the works for a year because I never finished it.
With over 172 million global streams, BKTHERULA seems to be creating her own genre. The Atlanta rapper who combines rap, punk and alternative, is a master at stealing the show— just look at her recent Boiler Room and Rolling Loud performances. Whether it's tour energy, building relationships or getting in touch with her deeper self, BKTHERULA is all about going up.
Although her music and appearance have darker elements, don't let the tattoos and dark clothes fool you. BKTHERULA is devoted to her spirituality and her relationship with God and Jesus. In addition to her religion, she emphasizes the genuine relationships she forms with her fans and how they treat her back. Her authentic and transparent demeanor shows in LVL5, and she knows it will reflect in her future stardom.
Are you excited for LVL5 to come out?
I'm extremely excited for LVL5 to come out. I feel like I've been waiting for this to form for some years now into this beautiful little thing... it's very exciting. At first I was nervous to release it to the world because of how long I've held onto it. I'm ready now.
What does LVL5 mean?
It's a way of thinking. It's a headspace, a mindset. It's the happy medium of life. A lot of people try to be on a positive wave, but you can't be 100% positive, you know what I'm saying? As things go on throughout life, LVL5 is taking the ego and pride out of life, being tapped in and understanding what spiritual warfare is. It's a team against the dark side, angels versus demons and LVL5 is a small group under angels.
How are you able to tap in to these concepts and break down these realms?
By living it. I've been saying 'level five' for years before I even knew I was gonna turn it into an album. The third dimension is where we live, the fourth dimension is the astral realm with our dreams. The fifth dimension is when you're at war. You practice your way to get up to that. It's the things that aren't seen but matter the most.
How long did it take to complete LVL5 and what was the songwriting process?
It was about three years. Some songs I already made, but others were definitely made from experience and others were made just for fun. Every single song on the album is a completely different point of time in my life. I'm not making music for the fame or the bread (money), but I'm making it because it's my source and it's something that I love to do...the reason I love this album so much is because it's many different people in the same body of work. That's why it's called a 'level' because it's just different levels, same game.
How do you see yourself evolving?
I see myself becoming more disciplined. I'm more tapped in every day. I think I'm maturing in that way, too.
What do you want listeners to get out of LVL5?
I want them to see themselves in it. I want them to really feel the music, dance and apply it to whatever aspect it relates to.
Why do you think you're blowing up so fast and have such devoted fans?
I think it's because I'm genuine. The way you talk to your fans means a lot. I pray to God every day and I'm going up because of how close I am with my fans and how much they can relate to me. Your fans should definitely know more about you and that has a lot to play with how fast you grow.
Because you're so young and getting so much attention recently, do you feel like you're representing young Black women in the music industry right now?
Definitely. The older I get and the deeper I get in the music industry, I realize how much it matters. It's important to remind Black women and the community that we need to stay 10 toes down on what we wanna do, what type of music we wanna make, what type of clothes we wanna wear and just what we wanna be in life. I can tell when I'm going through something because I'm a Black woman...if that makes sense. Especially in the music industry, as I get older, I'm seeing more. I would say it was causing me to be angry; the way Black women are treated differently because of three-dimensional things that don't exist. I started to have a lot of rage and hold myself with a lot of ego because of that.
How did you overcome that?
The more I started growing, I realized it's important to remain true to yourself because regardless of how hard it is, it's not gonna change anything. They can't change who you are or what you do. They might try to change some shit up in the third dimension because of industry authority. If you're tapped in with Jesus Christ, there's nothing that can defeat you. I started stripping away my ego and pride and looking in deeper.
office sat down with the creative duo to understand their constant collobration and the inspiration behind it all.
How long have you two been collaborating?
Barbara Braccini— We met a year ago, but we had friends in common. Just never met in real life.
Igor Pjörrt— I remember hearing Barbara’s name and then that she made music and everything. I started following her two music projects, but at the time I didn’t know it was the same person actually. I was a huge fan. When she contacted me the first time I was really happy. It’s just such a pleasure when something that makes sense comes to you. To be able to respond to music for once was really rewarding.
How would you guys describe your creative style together?
BB— Chill.
IP— Chill but also maybe coy. It’s hiding something. There’s still some self awareness to it. There is a vision of timeless luxury. We are both attracted to these images of beaches, sunsets, or whatever. I think it’s this thing of wanting to be somewhere ideal like paradise.
What drew you to each other, how did you meet and end up working together?
BB— We kind of knew of each other because we had friends in common, so for a long time, for years, im talking almost 10 years or something.
IP— Ya I think so.
BB—Just knew of our names I guess and then one time I was asked by Fact Magazine to have this interview and nice photoshoot, they asked if I could think of a photographer and I couldn’t apart from Igor. I had seen one of his photos it was just a photo of the sunset, it was a scan on some random instagram account, some library I think. I just had this sunset photo in mind and knew we kind of knew each other and thought it would be the easiest person/ the one that made the most sense visually.
IP—It was interesting for us because Barbara has always been in charge of her visual identity. She built this whole persona with her music, thats how I see it at least, but the visual identity was a huge part of that. I felt really honored to be let in, that process is usually so controlled. It was nice because it happened so naturally, we trusted eachothers sensibilities and we kind of just went from there. We didnt plan each shot, we just shared images all the time, and went to the studio. It was super nice because, I went to the studio with my best friend and Barbara went with her best friend. They were kind of assisting us with dressing her or throwing feathers on her. It felt really intimate, like a safe space, not like suddenly Barbara was in front of a whole team and vulnerable. It felt really nice, like we were just getting to know each other at the same time.
What is the creative process like?
BB— The nice thing is that, first of all, we do share a very similar, if not the same mood board, so that was a nice way to work. It’s not as if I wasn't sure about some of the potential ideas, we literally had the same ideas or liked the same color schemes. In that sense it’s really nice, I get to let go of the control a little bit, but not too much. I know I can trust Igor. I just know it is going to work out.
IP— I think for me, this exchange marked a sort of transition in my own work where Barbara exposed me to a certain sensibility that I hadn't explored as much. That moment when we worked on the Fact Magazine shoot it was kind of a turning point where I realized this is what I really like doing. To work with artists whose work I like and also to work on peoples visual identity. In my work, I have always had music as reference, more than photography. With Barbara everything made sense. The background I come from, where my photography comes from, has a lot to do with where I grew up, an island. It is very connected to the same feelings as her music, or I guess you could say ambient as a genre. Tied to subjects of distance and longing, its very meditative and turned inwards yet outwards at the same time. This attitude I felt in Barbara’s music was really important in activiating this inspiration to make work together. That’s why I feel like it was so easy for me, she triggered something that was there already.
BB—The images that Igor made for me, for the Fact Magazine interview, then we went on to doing the whole photography for my EP; It brings to life the music. It gives it a physical sort of world that doesn’t exist. I mean it exists, most photos are made in Madeira island. The way we selected the photos just gives hints to where it could be, but it could be anywhere. It is perfect with the music to give it some life and visual representation that I couldn't do myself. There’s only so much I could do with my Iphone or blurry selfies.
Can you talk about your relationships to Madeira Island and how you picked it for the photos?
IP— Technically we didn't even choose to shoot there, I was moving out of Madeira to Paris but I knew I was going to do that shoot so I shot a bunch of landscape in Madeira, then we did collages. We shot Barbara in studio to kind of make it look like it was shot on location. Then in the summer we were discussing the EP and I just went to Madeira for summer holiday. I proposed to Barbara to come. Not necessarily for that but just to visit. I would carry my camera with me everywhere and we would just shoot everyday. That was the fun part, it was very spontaneous in the sense that we would go to the beach and try this idea we discussed before. It wasn’t a one-day production. Each day was different. It was a slow process. It was so extended. To me thats what it’s like being home, time feels so stretched. There’s no urgency and people live so differently than in the big city like Paris.
BB— All the feelings he described with being in Madeira, I can sort of relate to because I’m from a small town in the south of France, very suburbian. Time passes similarly, I get the idea. I share that with Igor, time is very long and you do things differently with the people there. It just felt like when you're a teenager, you're starting to be a bit artistic and you're starting to explore. It felt like a little project, to pass time somehow, no pressure. We just tried things out, time would pass, we would go eat with Igor’s mom... drive around... it was just like holiday. The EP images are our holiday summed up.
IP— I remember you described your new EP as boring, I feel like that’s a luxury we had. That we could afford to be bored all the time. Just be bored together and listen to music all the time. I feel like those moments are also important, not just in the music but in life— its part of making a connection with someone, being comfortable in silence.
Malibu, how does Igor bring to life the vision you have for yourself and your art?
BB — I do have a mood board of just images, old fashion ads or renaissance paintings. I feel like my mood boards are always the same maybe the color scheme changes a bit but not that much. I’m not going to reinvent myself just now. For this EP I wanted to be wearing a black dress standing slightly turned to the camera but in the end we did something different. We go from my moodboard and Igor seems the vibe then he just proposes ideas. We had a sort of meeting in a cafe and he had drawn some little ideas. We were surprised by what we did in real life, we let ourselves be surprised.
IP — Our point of deprarture was very much the Prada ads, especially the FW ‘98 one. The cover of the EP is a direct reference of that. Another revelation to me about Barbara was how both the visuals and music she's attracted to are kind of muted down. I started to understand the richness in doing very little, very well. Her music is the same, it is very hard to not be a maximalist and imstead use the right sounds just enough for something to awaken someones sensibilities. The same happened with the images, I used to be so into vibrant colors but the moment we started toning the images down everything gained a timeless quality. We were concerned about the aspect of something being timeless, already thinking about the images in retrospect. What will they look like in ten years, what will they mean for people in ten years, or even what could they have meant ten years ago?