"Although I didn't write this song, it spoke to me in a way that made me feel as if it was my own story,” Brandon said. “I found myself playing it over and over again in my bedroom, remembering situations that I've been through.”
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Quinlan writes and sings with a vulnerability that transcends the traditional sounds and notions of rock music. Joe, Travis, and Mark are perfect contributors to layer with music necessary for Frances’ narratives. Each song acts as a collective journey, holding vigor and distinctive idiosyncrasies in an attempt to breathe truth into a world that does not stop moving; helping to gain ground when we may be lost.
Their music goes hard, but they couldn't be more lighthearted and silly. The banter actually made transcribing this quite difficult (but I laughed a lot). Below is just a glimpse into the thirty minutes I spent with chatting with Hop Along.
You’re all from Philly originally?
Yes.
Why Philly?
Frances—Well, we’re all from Pennsylvania.
Joe—And I feel like the city was the obvious place where, you know, creative people tend to migrate.
F—And generally we like things close to our families. The tours that we’ve gone on, there’s never been another city that grabbed me more than Philly.
Frances, this was originally your solo project if I’m not mistaken?
F—Yes. Hop Along, Queen Anselis.
And what is that derivative of?
F—Queen Ansleis is a wild flower, and I deliberately altered the spelling so it would become a character.
So almost like performance art?
F—Well, I don’t know who that character was, but I just wanted some strange name. I listen to a lot of Neutral Milk Hotel. I’m a little...mysterious sounding stuff.
Speaking of influences, any other notable ones?
F—I mean from that time, you know, Bright was was a big one, Joanna Newsom became a big one for me. We’re all really big Built to Spill fans.
How did you find your voice?
F—My mom loves to sing, I guess both my parents thought I was pretty alright at it. One of them picked a Tina Turner song to cover - ‘What’s Love Got To Do With It’ - I was 7, I wore my Halloween catsuit and my mom just cut the tail off.
I’ve honestly never heard a voice like yours before so am wondering how you found your sound exactly.
F—Thank you, I think I was affected by all the powerful women vocalists coming out at the time; Alanis Morissette, Fiona Apple, Ani Difranco, super into Celine Dion, Mariah Carey. So I’m sure years of trying to copy what they were doing physically.
I enjoy how silly you all are. You harbor a nice energy.
F—We’ve kinda got a Smothers Brothers thing going on. Or Sonny and Cher.
Of course, on a long list. So you have this strong sense of family. Any rituals or routines when on tour?
F—PUNCHING. No, no...routines? Uh, it changes every tour. I don’t think we had a routine on this last tour; it was chaos. We gotta get one! Maybe a group chant.
I bet you’d have a wild chant or handshake, a la The Parent Trap.
F—Oh, we do hacky sack! But I don’t know if I want people to know that…
J—Why? That’s cool!
Tyler—On the record!
Does anyone have a hacky sack on them?
Collectively yelling: NO.
Mark—I had a hackey sack on me SO many times.
F—It’s because Chrissy’s not here, that’s why we don’t have it. She’s part of the crew.
How did hacky sacking come into play?
M—There’s so much downtime on the road that it’s just something communal, uplifting…
F—Requiring focus.
J—Good exercise!
F—No it’s not.
So you’ll pass the hacky sack from foot to foot?
M—Yea, we’re alright!
Skilled?
Collectively: Absolutely not.
J—Ask us this time next year.
Who’s the worst in the van on tours?
M—I don’t know, me and Joe are probably equal.
F—Nobody’s too bad. We’ve had nights where one person is driving really late and some people like to do things to keep that person awake that are very annoying...but I guess maybe it saves our lives. But very annoying.
Who’s funniest in the band?
Collectively: Probably Joe.
J—Probably me.
T—Mark’s pretty funny, but less frequently. But it’s hard-hitting though.
J—He’s got more quality. I miss a lot, but I try more, which makes me funny most of the time.
F—He also has more volume.
J—Yeah, so there are times when he could be funnier, but I’m louder.
Ah, but no tension though?
J—No, friendly competition.
Who’s the band rebel?
F—Joe. He loves hearing the rules so he can break them intentionally.
J—Because that’s punk!
F—He’s like ‘How many do we get? Can we get three more than that?’
T—Joe is the funniest and the most problems.
J—I’ve got the most baggage.
We appreciate some baggage though.
J—Yeah, Mark probably has the most baggage. Most physical bags.
F—We’re all baggage! Because we actually care about each other, it’s extremely problematic. Would be so much better if we didn’t care about each other.
J—Then we’d have to get a bus, so we never see anyone.
What would the bus look like?
F—It would be a giant Oscar Meyer Weiner bus.
J—He’s got shades on.
F—Yeah a hot dog with sunglasses. That would be amazing.
So the outside is a giant hot dog, how about the inside?
T—Some grateful dead posters, tapestries, whatnot.
F—Five jacuzzis, so I don’t have to share.
There’s an evident, what’s the word...synchronicity?
F—SEXINESS? Sex appeal?
That too! But yeah, I guess it’s because you’ve all been together for so long.
F—Together so long, without any scrutinizing eyes. Allowed to just be ourselves and...be fools. That’s the only way it could have worked honestly. For us to try and be other people, would be...I would think a disaster. And there’s something nice about not even having the hope of being cool? At least for me.
It’s refreshing to see such a familial connection between all of you.
F—I mean, not take the easy way out, but we don’t really know any other way to be. And our respect for each other is evolving too. It’s not all like we’re the same people from two years ago, by any means. We’re changing together, we’re in each others lives enough to have an awareness of each other and what everyone is going through. We spend so much time together, why would we not use that time caring for one another? Like when I see bands fly in together and take separate rental cars to the shows...that’s gotta be tough. Is that fun?
J—Not as fun.
Well, your project and the music is definitely a part of you. Holds a different value.
F—Hey, it could happen, it’s just….then it really becomes work.
So you genuinely don’t think of this as a job?
F—Aspects of it.
J—Maybe in just how serious we take it, thinking of it as a job or explaining to my friends that it’s a job makes me take it more seriously.
T—Definitely a career. Hard for me to think of as a job, but I do know it’s my career.
F—When I think of a job, I think of it as something you go do, you go home, and then it’s over. And this isn’t that for me; it’s never over.
The neon colors of The Egg House are the perfect backdrop for Bennett, who deals in bold statements and colorful hues—if you watch the video for “Rock n’ Roll”, the latest single off upcoming EP Be Yourself, you’ll know what I mean. The 22-year old Chicago rapper is already staking his claim in his hometown and the world: a powerhouse in his hometown DIY scene, he’s now released two EPs under an eponymous independent label and has brought on singer-rapper Bianca Shaw as his first signee. When he came out as bisexual last year, he put himself at the forefront of one of the most important conversations in rap today: the intersection of blackness, sexuality, and the toxic hypermasculinity that pervades the genre and has silenced these voices. On the forthcoming EP’s title track, which Bennett released during Pride month, he raps “I'm an outstanding Afro-American bisexual havin' shit” with breathless flow and authority. Sitting next to him in this oversize egg carton, one can’t help but feel the slightest bit intimidated.
With the music turned down and the blunt nearly ashed, Bennett and I look at each other. He nods. “Should we start the interview?” As Bennett eyes a small bowl of melted vanilla ice cream someone disposed of as a makeshift ashtray, I turn on the recorder.
You sure you wanna do that? I feel like that's a waste of perfectly good ice cream.
No...do you want the ice cream?
No...[Laugh] So I guess, basic music journalism question: you released a new single at the beginning of June to mark Pride—tell me about it.
The single's called "Be Yourself." It's a song about me being more comfortable as myself, I put it out for the fans and for the world, but mostly for a roundtable discussion. If you look at the picture, no matter if you're homophobic and you're homophobic, you talk about it. I think that's something that really needs to happen because nobody has that conversation. It's something that we isolate from the everyday world.
Is the song more about actually starting that conversation?
That's what the album is about overall.
When's that coming out?
Early July, so this month. For now, the song is definitely more about getting in touch with Taylor Bennett. It’s about where I'm at in my career to give my fans and listeners a better idea of who they're supporting.
I dig that...I remember reading about you and thinking about when Frank Ocean came out and how that shook most of the music industry.
Definitely very important. Frank's one of my good friends, but something important to always acknowledge is that Frank is R&B, and it definitely crosses over to hip-hop, but I think as a hip-hop statement, there needs to be a minority face that empowers being yourself, and I think there's nobody doing that. That's why I'm interviewing with you, we're trying to get the word out in every way possible. We want to use my music career as a platform to speak and reach masses that are much larger than I could've reached through hip-hop to talk about a situation that I think has been urgent and that says something I think is isolated on purpose.
Male bisexuality?
The conversation! People just don't talk about it, which is the problem. It's about talking about it. We don't talk about it, and that's the problem.
I feel like just in terms of the American public, do you think nationwide audiences are ready to have that conversation about LGBTQ+ representation in rap and be receptive?
I think in 2018 when kids are getting gunned down, when there's mass shootings in gay nightclubs in Orlando, when all these things are going on there's no better time to talk about it. There's no better place to be than America. Something I've been saying really often that I can't stop saying is that we may not be the land of the free, but we have freedom of speech. That's something we take lightly as Americans. There are people all over the world that look at us because we might not always prevail, but we have the ability to challenge, and that's important. We have the ability to be heard if we have the platform. Because I'm an independent artist and I'm not so worried about what major labels think or what brands think, I can speak my mind and say how I feel. I think that's the difference. Ya dig?
I'd really like to hope that everyone will listen to the conversation you're trying to start. I often feel like Americans, especially in metropolitan cities, just kind of see what's happening and everyone's like "how did Trump happen" and we forget there's an entire middle part of the country we're so detached to. All of this violence has been a part of this country's history, and you putting that on blast is really important.
Thank you.
Do you feel like there's gonna be a rallying call behind you?
I think I'm aligning; that's something I was talking about to my manager the other day. Usually when you're on the right path and doing good things with your life, you'll meet people that believe in the same things and are headed in the same directions. Doesn't mean you have to work on the same team or they have to be on your payroll, but that there's somebody out there that also believes in and is fighting for the same things that you want. That means that there's a movement. I talk to kids all the time that say they came out to their parents, and I don't know if there's a specific wave behind me, but I feel there's a wave and a generation of people that know the systematic oppression that we've been and are going through and that are ready to rise up and are conscious enough to understand how to. I think I'm just a part of that, I don't want to be a leader or any of that shit. I'm just doing it.
I think it's especially important to be this open about everything you're being open about soon after Pride, especially in the middle of an administration that's denying that it's even going on.
I had this conversation the other day. Major companies and, period, during Pride Month, everybody screams "pride," but it's not a 24/7 thing for most of these companies. This is a time to capitalize off of something that a lot of people—lesbian, gay, bi, trans, or wherever one falls—including straight people are engaging in and paying money to participate in parades, buy clothing, transportation...businesses take advantage of it. I think it's one thing if "oh, I know the parade is going to be here so I know I'm gonna triple stock my load because I'm going to sell a bunch of lemonades," but it's another thing to say "I know Pride is coming, so let's get someone who represent this sexuality or something and let's capitalize." I don't rock with that. The whole purpose of doing this is that it shouldn't be a big deal if you're gay or if you're not gay, it shouldn't matter. It's not even a conversation. At that point, it's kind of like...now you have to watch the direction and I have to watch the direction of the people I'm working with and the things that I do, because there's a community of people I represent that I always have to take into consideration before I do anything.
Do you have any musical inspirations? Anyone you want to work with? I remember you and Young Thug were linked.
Young Thug's actually on this album! He's a great person and inspired me a lot with this project. Such a hard worker, brilliant man. And you know, Kendrick, Lil' Wayne, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Twista....definitely, clearly, Chance. Vic Mensa. A lot of different Chicago artists that are on the come up: Sweeno, Noname, Saba, Supa Bwe, Eryn Allen Kane, Bianca Shaw...
How big is Chicago's scene getting?
We have a really big scene, man! There's a lot of people that aren't famous. I was raised in Chicago, I've moved through Chicago all my life, born and raised. There's a lot of Chicago artists that inspire me that aren't famous artists per sé, especially in Chicago.
Like?
Femmebot, he's an amazing artist. Chicago has a huge fashion scene, too. Dope Boy Magic made by Joe Fresh, Sensei by Vic LLoyd, one of my favorite brands, Leaders 1355 by Corey Gilkey. Jugrnaut by Roger & Manny, the twins, the brothers, Off-White by Virgil Abloh...there's so many different brands and different things that come out of Chicago.
Are you touring anytime soon?
I think I'm gonna go on tour with a major artist...I shouldn't be speaking about that right now [Laugh]. But yeah, that's happening soon, gonna play Lollapalooza, very excited for that. Playing Chicago August 3rd, that's gonna be very dope.
And what are your plans for the near future?
I think I definitely want to do some kind of project that is kind of a multi-ranged project. Some kind of charity or possibly arts and craft kind of cool but somehow make it not corny event in Chicago and probably start moving through the Midwest, nationwide, and then, hopefully, worldwide. And of course, the label...
You have a label?
Yeah! Tay Bennett Entertainment, Bianca Shaw's my artist. She just put out a song, featuring me and Twista, y'all should go check that out. She's also on "Be Yourself." Amazing artist, very talented, very happy and gracious to work with, African-American woman from the west side of Chicago. So, yeah.
Location courtesy of The Egg House.
