office sat down with Alex to talk about Chopped and Screwed music, working with Puma and fighting climate change.
Hey what’s up?
I’m in LA now but I’m from New Jersey. Where are you from?
Long Island
I just made a Long Island focused playlist.
Can you send that along? What’s on it?
Everything from Billy Joel to MF Doom, De La Soul, punk rock and hardcore. Tons of shit. You'll dig it. It's a mixture of New Jersey vs. Long Island vibes.
What are you wearing right now?
This is the Obama Matrix.
Wow, that's cool. I'm wearing a Pleasures tee right now. It's actually one of the first brands I bought for myself.
Let me see. Which one? Oh the Kate Moss one.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, for sure. We probably got a CND on that one.
Really?
Richard Prince made this as a phrase painting in the nineties and then Kate Moss wore the t-shirt with the phrase on it to the opening.
And then we made it meta, the shirt never existed. And then somebody was like, no go.
Does that happen a lot? How do you deal with that?
No, because now we just work directly with people now. We're working directly with bands, image, licensing, artists, all types of proper shit.
We're Like a globalized thing now, right? We can't do the bootleg anymore and we haven't for a very long time.
I know that one of the first designs you did was the Morrissey's dead shirt.
I love Morrissey and I thought it was like a funny joke but people were definitely hot about it.
What's your favorite Smiths album?
I like Louder Than Bombs. I go back and forth with not listening to albums but just specific tracks.
I’ve seen Morrissey a bunch of times in concert. One time he left the concert, eight songs in because it was too cold and he didn't feel comfortable with the stuff he had to wear. People went berserk.
He's a menace. He’s like Kanye before Kanye.
I actually said that in an interview a while ago that Morrissey is my Kanye and it kind of circulated the internet for a little while [laughs].
If Pleasures was an album, what would it sound like?
I think it would sound like a Chopped and Screwed goth record.
Wow.
There’s a new wave of music out right now and we’re doing a project with DJ Micheal Watts. He was one of the O.G. guys in the Chopped and Screwed movement with DJ Screw.
He played me some stuff he’s doing with hardcore bands, it sounds fucking crazy.
I'm ready for that to start hitting the club.
I'll send you some tracks that are out right now.
Yeah, I'd appreciate that. Who wears Pleasures?
It's so many different types of people. It's people who aren't into streetwear, you know what I'm saying? It's people who are, mall rats, goth kids, people learning how to play musical instruments, people who are not on the internet that much. It's all different types of people that gravitate toward our brand because we speak with a different language. We use music, meme culture.
Pleasures is an inclusive thing. Everybody's welcome. You don’t even have to have a t-shirt from us. You can still enjoy what we do via social media or music sharing.
I know that Pleasures has had a lot of collabs from the Grateful Dead to Doc Martens. How do you decide on collaborators?
I think the first thing is that if we're gonna work with somebody, it has to be something that we would wear ourselves. I grew up wearing the Puma Clyde and Puma Suede. Some of my favorite artists growing up wore Pumas like The Beastie Boys and Glassjaw.
I will say, it's been a while since I wore Puma but I'm rocking it again just because I've been digging in their archives.
What has your experience been collabing with Puma?
Honestly, my experience has been pretty good. They're really open to trying stuff. They don’t really say no. They really care about the product.
Sometimes you can tell when someone’s just there to collect a check and just fucking go on to the next corporate job. It seems like everybody at Puma really cares about their job and gives it 110%.