Having that in you to sort of sit down and say, 'This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to produce my own work how I want to, and I'm just gonna let it fly and let it be.'
It does make it scarier because it's just me. If it's bad, it's my fault, but it also just feels really cool. It's been a long time coming. I can also just recognize that I'm at such a different point in my creativity and in my career, where I can finally be like, 'yes, I can fucking do this. And I'm proud of it. People like it.'
Can you walk us through sort of your writing process of making both of the songs you released?
Both of those songs were quite old, actually and by old, I mean, maybe a year old. I write mostly just by myself, alone in a dark room with my piano. Especially “SUNDOWN” — I literally wrote that song when I was in that moment. The song is about, you know, the daytime ends, the distractions are gone, then it's nighttime, and I'm just fucking sad. I literally wrote it when I was having that experience. “SIX TWO” as well, I kind of just wrote it in a moment where I was feeling super unwanted and like I was never gonna find love and it's probably my fault. It all just came out at the moment that I was feeling it. I made these demos for them on my phone with all these harmonies and I just loved the demos so much. I always was worried that I wasn't going to be able to match the demo just because I recorded it when I was feeling it and that shit you can't really replicate. Maybe one day I'll release the demo, we'll see.
Me and Albert have been friends for a long time and we're driving to the beach one day, and I'm talking about how I really need to find a producer. I just want to find a guy who will come over every day and we'll just make music and we'll work on my solo stuff. And he was like, 'hey, I'm here.' And I was like, 'oh shit,' because I always thought of him as an artist and not as a producer. So then we literally set up a studio in my house, he came over, and it all just happened really naturally. He found this crazy drum loop, which is the part right in the middle, and that shit changed the whole song and I wrote a whole new part of it. It just happened really easily. “SIX TWO” as well, I think we did that in a day. The vibe in the room was just right and we work so fucking well together. He's so talented and I can be like, 'hey, can you do this weird thing to this vocal part?' And he's like, 'yeah, it's done.' I don't fuck with computers. I don't want to touch a computer. So it's perfect. We did it really fast. We recorded both of those songs in like, a month and a half.
It's one of those things too where if things are meant to be if it flows like water, and from the sound of it, it just all seems to kind of flow. It all happened one after another to get to this point right now.
It was like a happy accident, all of it.
Yeah, the best things are.
It also makes me feel like it was the right time. You know what I mean? Like life was just like, here it is. You've been wanting to do this thing forever and it's falling in your lap so roll with it. There was just so much serendipity that it made me feel so much more confident in the fact that I was doing it because I was like life is trying to tell me something.
So you also hand paint garments, clothes and denim and all of that stuff. So how does fashion play a role with you as a musician and as an artist? Who are your biggest inspirations?
It's actually funny because DAISY WORLD was the name of my brand before it was my artist name. Which I think is cool. The second I realized like, 'Oh, shit, that could be my artist name,' everything fell into place and I could see the whole trajectory of it. But it kind of started as an accident. Inspiration-wise, my mom is like the OG denim, Levi's painter of Los Angeles. She had a whole business of it in the 80s and the 90s and she literally stopped doing it because I was born. So I'm taking over the family business, basically.
I painted a pair of jeans just because I wanted to just for fun and my manager Pat posted it on his Instagram. Immediately, Benny Blanco messaged me and was like, 'hey, can you make me some custom jeans?' And I was like, 'Sure, sure. Yeah, I can do that.' Then it just became my business literally because of him, which I don't think he understands. I was calling it DAISY WORLD because that was just the name of my Depop store. So I was like, 'okay, we can call this DAISY WORLD too.' Then it became this whole thing, and I love doing it so much. I've always loved painting. I'm not very good at painting, so I can always just kind of paint little cartoony things and now I just paint them on the clothes and it's so fun. I think it's so cool for people to have this thing that I'm literally touching. You know what I mean? Like slaving over it for days painting with a tiny paintbrush, hurting my eyes because I'm focusing so much, and then they have it and they get to wear it forever. It's like when I get a tattoo I'm always like, 'Oh that's crazy for the tattoo artist that like now this thing is on me forever.' I mean it's very different.