It’s crazy that the shoot happened when it did because you guys all happened to be together.
Ledef—It was really fun. I hit up my cousin because I just did something really intense for her last week. I called her and I was like, “Girl, remember last week? I’m calling in a favor. You have an hour to find a place for me to burn a motorcycle and bring assault rifles so we can shoot.” And it happened. We did it.
Where was it shot?
Ledef—It was a junkyard we used to party at. Me and Josue used to go to parties there, and it was real hood. It’s a chop shop, essentially. We used to go to parties there, and it would get shot up all the time. Real San Antonio.
I saw you guys set a violin on fire.
Brexxitt—Setting the violin on fire was so important. That was my violin, I used to play the violin for a very long time. My mother actually broke her back to buy this violin. And so throughout the years, I had been playing it and playing it, but I eventually lost the ability to play. And then it broke, and started deteriorating part by part. So I wanted to burn it, and now I’m gonna frame it when we get the cover of the broken pieces of the violin. It just goes full circle.
Ledef—Something that we’ve learned is to not put too much emphasis on what concepts mean upfront. If you do something, that means that there was a reason and intentionality behind it. You know, we’ll learn the reason why we did something later. It’s not so important about why we’re doing something. I think the academia of art really fucks up shit by trying to police the vocabulary or articulation of what art could mean. I really am proud of us for not falling into that trap. Later on, we’ll figure that out. It’s all about not falling into that trap, not falling into the academia and just focusing on destruction. We must destroy to build.
Can you give me a basic timeline of House of Kenzo? What sparked the idea to create the collective? How did you guys meet, first of all?
Ledef—It’s a lot. And honestly, that’s a boring question.
Brexxitt—[Laughter] We love you!
Ledef—We come from the same city, so of course we found each other, period.
Brexxitt—We’ve always been connected. And we would’ve found each other eventually.
How do you think House of Kenzo upholds the traditional structure and ideas of a house, and how do you think you guys push those ideas into the future?
Ledef—We’re a family. It’s not fake, we’re not just working together for clout or for art. We take care of each other down to our essential needs and wants and what we need to have in our lives.
Brexxitt—We do take care of each other, very much so. And we love each other so deeply, and you can’t fuck with that. You know, you can’t beat it down because it’s so deeply rooted within us. That’s a house. You have to have your bones in order to build this house, and that’s always what we’ve had. So it never was “a house.” It never was that thing. It was always just love and family.
Ledef—At their core, ballroom houses come together because of a need for organization, structure, platform, and for garnering power together. Survival. That’s exactly what we do.
So the theme of the cover is “DEFUND THE POLICE. ARM THE DOLLS.” Can you guys tell me a little bit about what this idea means to you?
Ledef—Bitch, we’ve been through so much both individually and together. We’ve all had to protect each other in so many ways. Violent ways. We’ve had to fight. We’ve had guns put in our face. Knife fights. We’ve been all up in it, and it’s not a game. It’s not silly, and it’s not a joke. There’s a conversation behind placing weapons in trans or black people’s hands, because clearly we all see what’s going on with the police. There’s a conversation to be had behind that, but at the front, I think it’s a very easy, simple message. At the core of it, I think trans people, queer people, black people need to have protection and the agency to keep them, their loved ones, their families, and anything that they care about, safe.
Brexxitt—Yup. There have been numerous times where we’re just out here, and it ain’t safe, and I’m scared.
Ledef—It’s not. I’ve had to get into at least five fights because of Breezy, or securities, or because of random people walking down the street after a show. I’ve had people pull up and point a gun at me. I’m just like, what now? Well, get out and fight me then! If you’re gonna shoot me, shoot! Like, what are we gonna do, run? But no, they drive off.
Brexxitt—Yeah, and the fact that no one shoots at you—it’s still an unruly situation, though. That really pisses me off as well. So it’s just all of these things combined into that message. It’s really dramatic. It’s such a battle out here every day. And I’m thirty-some and have been fighting for so many years, I cannot go through any more. It stops today.