Alex! When we first met, I tried looking for you on Instagram, but to no avail. Are you still anti-social media?
The truth is I am not a pro-influencer or Instagram art society—I am with Kelly Cutrone on that subject. I am pro-art, and pro-creativity and I want to see a revolution in this decade of people rebelling against their screens, and really diving deep into their humanism, their empathy, and pulling out their artistic potential from the hadal-zone depths within themselves. I hope for young creatives who read Pop Magick, a portal becomes open for them and they are awakened to their full potential. I want to see creation, not curation.
Was there a specific moment you realized you weren’t living up to your full potential?
I think anyone who has worked in the fashion publishing industry can tell you that it is the most insane, chaotic lifestyle and you start to be confused as to why you are subjecting yourself to such modern pain? To see your name in lights? For me, I realized the appeal was because deep down I had low self-worth, so I thought that if I could get the approval of celebrities, or have some type of position of power in which I could be used as a valuable-nepotism transaction with elite people, that I could feel a sense of belonging, approval and not feel so much like a loser. Now that I have grown out of it, I feel quite pathetic because unfortunately life is not about power, and receiving things for yourself and ego, life should be about helping others and creating impact, and when I receive letters from people saying my book changed their life, that means a lot more to me than me getting some attention to sustain a public image, or to stunt on my long list of enemies.
Why did you decide to write a book about magic[k]? Why now?
I wrote Pop Magick because I felt exhausted reading books on the occult that were so bloated, and starved of any real sense of direction that felt easy-to-follow. I wanted a book to start out the 2020s decade that had solutions, to handle the life interruptions and turmoils of being alive on this planet. So, I wanted to create the book I wanted to see in the world, and I willed that into existence. I even did a ritual on a Virgo full moon, for Rose McGowan to do the foreword—before the book was written, I sketched in a notebook “Pop Magick by Alex Kazemi, Foreword by Rose McGowan.” I want anyone who reads the book, to feel inspired to create their own [Madonna] Ray of Light era, rather than wonder what it was like but to do the work on yourself. To follow your soul’s instincts and manifest your dreams.
I love that Madonna album! Speaking of pop stars, I’m curious. What does the modern day pop star represent to you?
I love the album too! Ray Of Light is a masterpiece on the secrets of magick and kabbalah. I think pop stars are the new gods and goddesses. Ariana Grande stans find spiritual salvation in Ariana, in the same way a republican finds trust and hope in Jesus. I think false-worship is a dangerous symptom of the disconnection people feel in our world due to spending so much time on technology. I say, fuck worship. Be the change you want to see in the world. You are as equal, and as powerful as your icons—do not view yourself as separate, or less than.
What’s your sign? Are you a Scorpio? You talk about sex a lot in the book…
I am a Cancer. I felt like I had to! By design, I cannot separate sex and romance from each other. Sex to me is one of the most powerful intimate magickal rituals that a human can participate in. It’s sacred and serious—it’s for a full moon night—not through impulse or reactionary behavior or temporary horniness. I think our generation has this reputation of being so hyper-sexual and hookup app-obsessed. I don’t feel like that experience is even real, for people who are out there, who do not agree with abiding by the expectations of a collapsed society, like myself.
What role does work play in your life? Do you consider yourself a workaholic?
100%! I am a diagnosed workaholic. Work rules every area of my life, you can imagine how difficult that is for anyone who tries to step into my rigid, controlled, goal-oriented and routined world that I am the dictator of—but if I wasn’t absolutely focused, and disciplined, then how could I accomplish anything? There are so many distractions in our world for creatives, and you need to protect yourself and have tools to disconnect. That’s why I want people to deprogram from technology rather than unify themselves with it and worship it like a false god. You can’t understand your full potential until you do a screen detox.