When did you start making music?
I started music for fun two years ago. I didn’t plan to have a music career. My sister and my dad are both musicians, so I always grew up around that and I played the synth when I was a kid - but I started making music for fun. I was a big fan of my friend’s production on a song he made, so I reached out to him. I was like “hey, can I hop on this?” because I really wanted to make a music video. I wanted to challenge myself - like ‘if I’m doing this music video, then I can do a song.’ If you can be the creative director, if you can be the stylist, you can also try to be the singer… so I said ‘fuck it.’ I made the song. It had really silly lyrics, just a catchy song. Now I’m listening to it and I’m like ‘this is so stupid.’ But it was fun, people enjoyed it. It was raw. I didn't take myself super seriously, even though I take my vision seriously, the lyrics themselves weren’t serious. The passion started from that first song and now it’s an everyday thing. I’m producing, song writing, I also started song writing for other artists… which is insane. I grew so much from it in only two years. I’m just super excited for the next year because I’m gonna drop a project.
It’s such a relatable thing to just want to make a music video but to have to have like something to base it off of.
Yeah, I couldn’t just do the music video… and I didn’t want to give my vision to someone else. I just had to do it myself.
Do you think visually a lot?
Yes, I do. It’s definitely helping me through the lyrics, I have visual ideas, concepts, locations. I’m always wondering how I can make a sound that fits these vibes. I think they need each other. Sometimes I can make a song and I don’t have an idea for a video, but sometimes I have a video idea and I’ll need a song for it.
Is the creative direction you’re going in extremely clear to you?
I feel like I already know the direction I want to go in, the only thing that I wanna keep on building is the stories. I don't necessarily have the biggest budget to do all the crazy stuff yet, hopefully soon, if I work enough. I definitely wanna do crazier ideas than what I've done. The world itself is just so amazing, being able to put these ideas, all these references into, you know, me… it’s super… it’s a passion.
I actually got to see you perform at the No Agency party which was really fun.
Oh yes, that was my first show ever!
Yeah, it was awesome… the whole bar was blue, and your hair was so blue.
Yeah, it was so cute. I was nervous because it was my first time performing ever. I did it, then I threw up so much after that. I was so scared. It was actually horrible.
I don’t think anyone could tell you were nervous. You were great. How do you feel about performing now? Do you view performing and music as one in the same or are they completely separate things to you?
When it comes to performing I feel like I’m always slightly nervous. It’s a good question because I just did a show, and that experience was crazy because I was so not nervous. I don’t know if it was because my friends and my family were there… it was also an early show, when it’s an earlier show I’m less anxious. But when it’s a late show and I have to wait the whole night, I’m thinking about it like “oh my god it’s 8:00pm, it’s 9:00pm, it’s 10:00pm oh my god,” but since it was 7:00pm I was like I’m gonna eat, I’m gonna do the show right away. I wasn’t nervous at all. In the moment, I’m always interacting with the crowd. I want to bring the best energy I can because I’m not the best singer in the world. I didn’t grow up a singer. I didn’t even have autotune. I was just yelling into the mic, but I love the raw energy. People were dancing, and that’s my goal, I wanna make people dance - make people have fun. I don’t want them to be like “oh, let me hear her voice and see if she can actually sing.” That’s not my point. Even I could agree, if you think I’m not good at singing, I’d be like “sure, I don’t care. That’s not what I’m here for.” Performing is really important when it comes to world building in real life. That’s how people see you and your musical and visual world. So I always ask to have a set design, lighting design. I want the world in front of people's eyes. So yeah, I think the performance is important for the music in my opinion.