Angèle Returns


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On Childhood, Drive & Family
Tell me a little about your childhood. Any memories that stick out to you today?
Honestly, it feels so long ago, it's hard to remember sometimes. But music was always a big part of my life. I remember my dad driving me to my mom’s office and we’d always be listening to music in the car.
It seems like your family has instilled a real sense of greatness in you. I saw your sister just received her Ph.D, as well—where does that drive come from?
My mom, for sure. She’s so ambitious. She’s worked in finance, marketing, and in the Ghanaian government. She’s always set a strong example for us. One thing she’s always said that’s stuck with me: “When you’re working with others, always be kind and polite.” That’s shaped how I move in the world—how I lead, how I collaborate. I try to create fair, just working environments.
What’s it like working so closely with your mom in your career?
It’s been... interesting. We've learned a lot about each other. I’m more free-spirited and edgy; she’s more conservative, but also very open-minded and extremely hardworking. We’re both strong thinkers. We disagree a lot. On work calls, she’ll be the one to say, “Don’t do that,” and I’ll be like, “No—you don’t understand!” Not just because we’re mother and daughter, but because we’re coming from different schools of thought.
She’s a conservative African mom in many ways. She’ll see a picture and ask, “Are you smoking now? Why?” And I’m like, “Relax! I don’t smoke every day, it was just for the photo or the vibe.” She's always reminding me I’m a role model for young African women, especially because I’m provocative and she’s more traditional. We don’t always agree, but I respect her deeply.

On Black Girl Empowerment
I’ve heard this new era is about Black girl empowerment. What made you want to center that? Is there something you wish you heard sooner—something you’ve been affirmed in or are unlearning?
Everything I do is about empowering Black girls. When I think about my music, I mostly see alt Black women. This era is different, though—it’s about being a Black Star. That phrase means something to me: my daily existence, the people who love my music, the energy we create together.
I was thinking about what it means to be a Black Star—not just within myself, but in how I pass that feeling on. It’s important. We don’t see enough Black girls get to be stars. We’re not afforded as many opportunities to be mediocre and still receive visibility or resources.
I know how much I’ve had to master my craft, how alert I have to be, how I built my business from the ground up. So when I think about who I want to give power to, it’s Black women. Only them.
And how have fans responded to that energy?
That’s been the most affirming part. The fan interactions are the rollout. Like when I tweeted, “I need 50 of the most beautiful girls to meet me at the park,” and 50 Black girls showed up. They share their stories with me. And in pedestalizing me, they’re pedestalizing themselves. I make sure they know I’m accessible. We can talk. We can hug.
What’s something you’ve had to unlearn?
Patience. With myself, with others, with the process of life. That’s been my biggest area of growth.
On Creative Process & Place
You’re not new to this—what’s a non-negotiable part of your creative process now?
I like to make albums in new environments. I travel somewhere I’ve never been—like the Canary Islands for Angel You Don’t Know. The fresh air, the horses grazing in the streets... it opens me up creatively. For Fountain Baby, I went to Brazil. The people there are so free in spirit, in thought, in love, in art. No barriers. They enjoy life to the fullest. It was beautiful to be welcomed into a community I didn’t know I had—and to bring my team along for the ride.
Where in the world has shaped your artistry most?
My hometown, Ghana. It’s the first place I had any real contact with anything—food, music, love, art, family. From being 14 or 15 to now, that’s where it all started.
What’s your comfort meal?
We have this dish called waakye. It’s like a rice and beans stew with avocado, onions, burnt shrimp paste, shito, pepper, gari, spaghetti... I need all of that.


On Play, Persona, and Performance
How have you been having fun this time around?
By centering the fans—not just mine, but the music of others. I’ve been curating experiences with DJs from the community, and making it about their stories too.
Your voice can be soft, sharp, playful, powerful. How do you choose which vocal persona shows up in a song?
It depends on what I want to communicate. Mischievous? Sharp. Vulnerable? Soft. Sometimes airy or smooth. Other times I want to scream. I just follow the song’s energy.
Any lyrics from the new project that feel especially close to you?
Yes—several. One of my favorites is from “B2B.” It starts playful and cheeky, and then gets really somber and reflective.
“I’ve been into you, I like what we do / Now come into me, see my point of view.” “It took me years to see the signs, bitch, I was on the cusp.”
Another one is “Dream Scenario”:
“Kisses in the key of love, it’s ebony / Angel when you breathe into me, heavenly.” “My bitch style like Edna Mode / Can’t put on no cape for her!” “Yes my life is wavier / But she make it wavier ier ier ier ier ier.” “I need a love for summer / Now, what are you gonna do with it? / I know my heart is sensitive / What are you gonna do with it?”
You’ve been playing festivals—and more are on the way. How do you think about your live shows?
What’s the dream version? A small crowd—like 100 people. I just want to sing everything acoustic. Some B-sides. Even the stuff I put on SoundCloud.
On Joy, Humor & Style
I saw you retweeted a Druski video. Got a favorite skit of his?
Yes! The one he did a couple years back about football moms of middle schoolers and then the recent white “Y/N” one killed me.
What’s been bringing you joy lately?
Hanging out with my family. Going to Paris for fashion. Just being surrounded by people I love.
How does your current style reflect what you're feeling inside?
I wear all black all the time because I am the Black Star. It feels like armor. I feel invincible.

“Honestly, I never imagined I’d get to do a production this big for one of my songs,” she goes on. “As an independent artist, that kind of thing feels out of reach. But thanks to Telekom Electronic Beats partnering with me on their Own Your World online safety campaign, we got to bring this huge vision to life — and hopefully influence the world in a good way at the same time. And they gave me so much creative freedom. It’s one of my favorite things I’ve ever made, and now it lives forever in my little music video universe.”
The army of VTSS clones really scaled up the production, “It was wild. Even the crew who know me well kept getting confused and chatting up extras thinking it was me,” she recalled. “At first I thought it was hilarious — like there I am again — but after five days of filming, it started to mess with my head. Everywhere I looked: girls in black wigs, dressed like me, acting like me. It got a little Black Mirror. “It’s funny, but also a little creepy — like the internet sometimes".

2HOLLIS wears PANTS by 424, BELT from SLAM JAM ARCHIVE, SHOES are THE WEAPON.
We first met in Paris at the end of June, during a sun-filled afternoon shoot in a loft in the fourth arrondissement. Ten days later, I called him from Amsterdam, and he picked up from his studio in Los Angeles. On that call, we talked about the habits that keep him grounded—early mornings, no phone, light through the window—as well as the imagery that keeps showing up in his work: digital symbols, anime references, private rituals.
With a 24-date North American tour starting in September, things are picking up. But 2hollis seems less interested in momentum for its own sake. What matters more is staying connected to the core of what he’s making: slow growth, clear intentions, and enough time to feel things as they come.
Below is our unfiltered conversation on that trans‑Atlantic call:
ENZO: Take me back to this morning—what was the very first thing on your mind when you opened your eyes?
HOLLIS: Lately I’ve been waking up and forcing myself to stand right up, rather than look at my phone. I find that the days I start my morning by scrolling on my phone aren’t the best days. So I just get up and walk outside immediately.
Straight into natural sunlight?
Yeah, I just step into the sunshine. That’s usually what I do.


Left: SHOES are THE WEAPON. Right: 2HOLLIS wears JACKET and PANTS by 424.



TOP: 2HOLLIS wears COAT by LU’U DAN, PANTS and BOOTS by 424, SUNGLASSES by GUCCI. Bottom: 2HOLLIS wears JACKET by RICK OWENS.
Do you have any rituals throughout the day to set the tone or keep you going?
Definitely. I try to get sunlight whenever I can – I even invoke Metatron sometimes. I mostly just exist on my own terms. I’ll go into my own space, away from phones and from people. I like to spend time alone when I really want to start my best day. I feel like if I see anyone, it resets my creative timer. The more I'm away from people, the higher it builds, and the more I make the crazier shit.
Lately, my process has been working during the day, because my creative flame is really fueled by sunlight. I just can’t sit in a dark studio with a fruit bowl and poor air conditioning – it’s not inspiring for me. So I set up a studio in my new house with huge floor-to-ceiling windows, and I get lots of sun. I work during the day, in the light, and lately I’ve been trying to go to bed early at night. I’m a bit of a grandpa lately.
You’ve talked about feeding off nighttime vibes before. How does that fit in?
I’ve switched it up lately. I’ve found working at night to be less inspiring. I was going to bed at 7 a.m. and waking up at 3 p.m., and then I’d wake up hating it. So I said, “Enough of that; I’m taking control.” Now I wake up early and feel a lot more inspired.
You grew up in a musical household—what do you remember hearing around the house?
Pretty much everything. My dad is a huge part of my musical influences—he showed me so much of what I still love today. Early on I got into Daft Punk, Justice, and some classic rock like Iron Maiden and AC/DC. I was also listening to a lot of hip-hop and soul—A Tribe Called Quest, Wu-Tang Clan, Al Green, Otis Redding. And then there was this Berlin techno duo, Basic Channel—my dad used to play their stuff in the car all the time. I didn’t realize it then, but that sound really stuck with me.
That’s a lot of European influence?
This was young, but I was absolutely obsessed with a Swedish band called Lo‑Fi Funk. Their first album is called Boy Life—that was a bit of an influence on, if you know, with all the boyliife shit that me and my friends are on. There’s a track on it called “City” that was my favorite. I’d always ask my mom to play it when she drove me to school. If you listen to that song now, you can hear how it's definitely influenced me..


Left: SHOES are THE WEAPON. Right: 2HOLLIS wears JACKET by RICK OWENS.
What was the first thing you remember discovering yourself that made a big impact on you, musically?
For sure, Skrillex. Everyone knows Skrillex was huge for me. Also Deadmau5, and really all that dubstep coming out around 2013-2015. Honestly, Minecraft YouTuber intro music was a big deal for me as well for me when I was 10 years old. I was obsessed – I’d replay certain YouTuber intros over and over just to hear the 15-second drop. I’d even try to recreate them in GarageBand and fail hilariously.
I know you’ve changed your stage name a few times. When did you start thinking about stage names?
Oh, I was very young. I must have been about 12. I was into skateboarding, and my friends and I would skate listening to everything that was hot at the time. This was around 2016. Famous Dex had this song – it’s called “Drip” – that goes, “I get the drip from my walk.” We were so obsessed with that track. We would skate to it all the time. I remember wanting to change my Instagram name back then, and I was thinking about that song, so I went with “Drippy.” Then I just added “Soup” for no reason. So my name was “Drippy Soup” for a while. It had a nice run, but eventually it had to change. “Hollis” is my real name, so I switched to that. Then I added “2” in front because I see the number 2 a lot in my life. So in high school I became “2hollis.”
What triggers you to create?
Everything. It’s the music I’m listening to, the images I see, the movies, the video games, the people around me. It’s experiences, nature, love, heartbreak, anger... all emotions, life itself.


Left: 2HOLLIS wears JACKET by RICK OWENS. Right: 2HOLLIS wears PANTS by 424, BELT from SLAM JAM ARCHIVE, SHOES are THE WEAPON.
You mentioned Minecraft. I know you’re very fond of the game. What exactly about it inspires you?
I love Minecraft because it’s perfect in a way. The great thing about Minecraft is that it can be anything you want it to be. You can create any experience you want in that game.
Do you want to create the same feeling with your music?
People always ask me, “What’s the meaning of this song?” But for most of my songs, the best answer I can give is, “It’s what you want it to be.” Some songs have specific stories, sure, but I like art where the listener or viewer gives it their own meaning. Once someone listens to a song and it resonates with them, that song becomes theirs in a way. I think that’s why I relate to Minecraft – both allow for personal interpretation and creativity.
If you could import one element from Minecraft into real life, what would it be?
Elytra. Definitely. My friends and I always talk about that – imagine if we could have Elytra and just fly around. That would be insane!
Do you see yourself as a worldbuilder? Do you have certain symbols or visual motifs that keep reappearing in your work?
Totally. I always think visually when I’m making music. For the past couple of years, I’ve actually been world-building a story around my music. It’s something I’ve been developing, and it will be more fleshed out in time. Right now, I think of all my albums as part of the same universe I’ve built. Some connections are obvious, others more subtle, but everything ties together. I like to keep it canon, so even if different albums or songs sound different, they’re all in the same conceptual world.

2HOLLIS wears COAT by LU’U DAN, SUNGLASSES by GUCCI.
You mentioned that your earring was inspired by Howl’s jewel from Howl’s Moving Castle. What draws you to Howl’s character and his sense of beauty?
I’ve had a personal connection with Howl ever since I was very young. I’ve loved that story for a long time. I see a lot of myself in him. He’s a genius character – charismatic, beautiful, but also flawed. I admire a lot of his traits and sometimes try to channel them. Of course, some of his aspects are toxic, and I’m aware of that, so I know what not to emulate. But I think he’s just a beautifully complex character. I relate to him in many ways, and I try to capture a bit of that beauty in myself.
You recently changed your hair color to black. Is there a particular color that makes you feel most “you”?
I think 2Hollis is meant to be ever-evolving, ever-changing. Staying in one place has never been me – in personality or in art. I like to move around, try new things, never stay still physically or spiritually. I’m always moving. Literally, when I'm sleeping, my foot is shaking. My mom took a video of it one time. I'm literally constantly moving.
But I’ve noticed fans can get really attached to a certain image of me. It becomes almost personal for them, like they feel they know me and own a part of me. I’ve kind of wanted that – I feel that way about my fans, and they feel it about me. So I guess it worries some people when I change. Some fans were even outraged by my new hair color. But I find that interesting. I’m always going to change. People often react negatively to change simply because it’s unfamiliar at first. If every new thing I did was immediately loved, maybe I wouldn’t be pushing any boundaries.
So yeah, I’ll keep changing – hair color, music style, look, everything. That’s part of who I am.


2HOLLIS wears PANTS by 424, BELT from SLAM JAM ARCHIVE, SHOES are THE WEAPON.


Left: 2HOLLIS wears JACKET and PANTS by 424. Right: SHOES are THE WEAPON.
You give off a strong sense of self. What’s your relationship with feeling misunderstood?
I feel like I’m misunderstood almost 99% of the time. But that’s part of being an artist, right? Almost all great artists are misunderstood. Sure, many people do get me – my true fans really understand what I’m about. But yeah, most of the time I feel like people don’t fully get me.
When did you first realize you were good at what you do?
Honestly, I think when I first started trying to make music, I just knew in my heart it was my path. Even as a kid in middle school making beats on my computer, I had this feeling that I was headed toward exactly where I am now. And I know I’m still nowhere near where I’m ultimately going to be. There’s a long way to go, but it’s exciting.
What would you say is your own weapon?
I use no weapons. I only use love.