Cool. Yeah, I'm excited to see the aftermath of the show. But yeah, that's kind of funny because I was reading some of your Tweets and somebody asked "What happens after Riorave?" and you talked about playing PS2.
Dude, I just bought one. It's so fun. That's like a whole different world.
Is that where your mind goes when you detach from reality?
Exactly, my mind goes into the PS2– that shit is hard. I fuck with it.
What was your favorite game?
It was these WWE wrestling games. Like Smackdown vs Raw in 2007. But I just got GTA San Andreas for the first time. I never played that game before. Or I'm playing Tony Hawk American Wasteland, something like that. That shit was crazy.
You also started making music at 13. So what were some of those influences and reasons why you chose to start writing music at 13?
I've always been infatuated with music because of my upbringing. My parents loved music, my sister was a singer, and my brother would make beats on FL Studio, and that's the program I use now. My influences that made me start making music was like Famous Dex, Playboy Carti, this was like 2016. And like, Nebu Kiniza is like that guy who made Gassed Up shawty- those were my influences at the time, because I was rapping and singing over these Famous Dex, Playboy Carti type beats. And that was off the Apple headphones. Good times.
So what would you say was the progression to the sound that you're making now? Like, how did you come from Playboy Carti, and Famous Dex to your music, because they're sort of different…
It's just like what I'm listening to at the time. I started making dance music in the summer of 2021 and I heard like, these artists making some dance tracks, and I was really fucking with it. That's when I really wanted to take my singing from here to over here. So I thought my singing over that would be perfect and then I made my first dance song called "Leaving You." And from then on I've just been making dance music.
When would you say was sort of a time where you felt like that tide turning to you being able to go on this headlining tour by yourself?
That was like, beginning of 2022 when I went to Paris for my song, "God Save the Girl" and I did a music video for that. I think that was when I really realized I could really create and make an impact with this type of music. That was really the turning point. Definitely going to Paris and then going right back to school because I was still a senior at the time.
And when you came back to school, how were your classmates reacting?
I came back from Paris on Sunday night, and then I had to go to sleep to go to school that same Monday. And then when I came back I told them I went to Paris, but I felt like they didn't believe me. They just didn't believe what I was doing because I go to school with them, like I grew up with them. It didn't click in their head until after I graduated.
How would you say that social media and being online has shaped you and your music?
I think it saved me in a good way because I've met a lot of cool people that have impacts on my music and my journey. I met the best people on the internet.
So you have an EP that'll finally be released probably a little bit before this interview comes out. So how is this EP different from past projects? And what reactions from fans do you hope to receive?
I hope that they don't get it at the first listen, I want them to get it at the 10th listen or so. This EP is like a journey. It's an arc of who I am as an artist and these different genres that I spread across this EP. It's an introduction to the fans and to let them know what I'm trying to build and who I am as an artist, because people are still confused on who I am as an artist. They'd be asking, what's my genre? Or like, what's my style or whatever. So, this EP could really let them know what I'm really trying to build.
So people are trying to put you in a box? I'd say there's no real sort of category for you and the sky's the limit with you and your music.
When people ask me for my genre, I just say my name. I'm forever evolving so I wouldn't box myself into anything.
No, that's really refreshing to hear because I feel like sometimes in the industry, you do one thing, and you feel like you have to stick to it.
I feel like that's just boring. As an artist, I'd get really bored if I was making dance music for the rest of my life. I just can't imagine that.
So what would you say are your writing processes when you get into the studio?
I find a beat first usually on YouTube, or my producer friends. I just listen to the beat and if I fuck with, I'll load it up onto whatever I'm recording on and then freestyle it in a way. I'll have my mind gone, say these random words, and see whatever fits. Then I just build off that. That's what I've been doing for all my songs. I go into the studio, not knowing what song I'll make and it just kind of just happens.